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"redrover" wrote:
Sorry about the photos not being compressed. I'll try to do better next time. Dr. J Compress the idea that this is a text group, jackass. You booted a bunch of text posts off the spool with your shitard aerator pic. |
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If you answer an argument, you can always name call.
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: Sorry about the photos not being compressed. I'll try to do better next time. Dr. J Compress the idea that this is a text group, jackass. You booted a bunch of text posts off the spool with your shitard aerator pic. |
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"redrover" wrote:
If you answer an argument, you can always name call. "Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: Sorry about the photos not being compressed. I'll try to do better next time. Dr. J Compress the idea that this is a text group, jackass. You booted a bunch of text posts off the spool with your shitard aerator pic. -top post corrected- "redrover" wrote: If you answer an argument, you can always name call. What argument? You bought a cheap plastic aerator, then you post pics of it in a text group. No argument here. |
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I watched this thread so I could become informed before buying an aerator.
I have never heard a specific reason (other than the FACT you own one) to buy a Ryan. Give specific examples why yours is better, ie more horsepower, easier to use, more production per hour. BTW what model Ryan do you own? Contrary to your statement, the Plugr is not made of plastic. Even the cover is made of metal. If you cant give me specific facts as to why Ryan is better, I have bought the better equipment. "Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: If you answer an argument, you can always name call. "Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: Sorry about the photos not being compressed. I'll try to do better next time. Dr. J Compress the idea that this is a text group, jackass. You booted a bunch of text posts off the spool with your shitard aerator pic. -top post corrected- "redrover" wrote: If you answer an argument, you can always name call. What argument? You bought a cheap plastic aerator, then you post pics of it in a text group. No argument here. |
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"redrover" wrote:
I watched this thread so I could become informed before buying an aerator. I have never heard a specific reason (other than the FACT you own one) to buy a Ryan. Give specific examples why yours is better, ie more horsepower, easier to use, more production per hour. BTW what model Ryan do you own? Contrary to your statement, the Plugr is not made of plastic. Even the cover is made of metal. If you cant give me specific facts as to why Ryan is better, I have bought the better equipment. "Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: If you answer an argument, you can always name call. "Steveo" wrote in message ... "redrover" wrote: Sorry about the photos not being compressed. I'll try to do better next time. Dr. J Compress the idea that this is a text group, jackass. You booted a bunch of text posts off the spool with your shitard aerator pic. -top post corrected- "redrover" wrote: If you answer an argument, you can always name call. What argument? You bought a cheap plastic aerator, then you post pics of it in a text group. No argument here. I use these http://www.carswelldist.com/big_image.php?id=158 and lawnaire V's. If you think that junk you bought is better there's not much I can do about it. Let me know how it works in 10 years, and if you can get parts for it. Btw, why do you post as two different people? |
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Steveo wrote:
Btw, why do you post as two different people? which 2 is he? |
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joe wrote:
Steveo wrote: Btw, why do you post as two different people? which 2 is he? You should know, bellsouth boi. |
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Steveo wrote:
"redrover" wrote: And a note to Stevo, just cause you haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk. I seen enough here to know I don't want one. http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html As it turns out, redrover sells them. shocking! |
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Stevo,
You are way off base. I would love to get any kind of support (i.e. money or free equipment) from ANY manufacturer. (If you would re-read my previous posts, you would see that EXCEPT for owning a WORLD CLASS CROQUET COURT in my back yard, I am simply a white collar professional) I have no allegiance to any company. Actually, if pressed for favoritism, I feel that Toro units may be a little better engineered than competing (RYAN/TEXTRON) products. (although at a somewhat higher price) I continue this discussion for the other readers. Coming to this newsgroup, my sole objective was researching a planned purchase of an aerator. (We are both obviously believers in an regular aeration program) When I asked for suggestions/ reccomendations from users, the only advice I got from you was to buy a Ryan hands down: no facts, no eplanations, no comparisons. When you did not answer my questions directly, I quickly gathered that you were biased, you must be a Ryan owner?dealer. My needs were straightforward, I need to aerate my court at least 3 times a year (actually more often is reccommended). In the past, I have rented and borrowed aerators . I have rented both Bluebird and a Ryan lawnaire IV rotary aerators. Maybe in your experience, maybe they are vastly different machines, but to me (except for the decals) they were essentially the same unit. Simply because they are both ROTARY aerators. They both leave 1 to 3 inch long irregular scars at every single entrance point. This is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE for a lawn laser leveled to 1/4" tolerance. (Maybe you are OK with this if you run a mundane/generic lawncare business) Later I borrowed a very old (~1988) Ryan GREENSAIRE aerator. This was an AWESOME MACHINE!!!! Every aeration hole entered the ground at a perpendicular angle!!! I propose that VERTICAL aeration from ANY brand aerator (less surface disruption) is better than any ROTARY aeration process. Ask any golfer, why golf course professionals use vertical aeration. They know that bentgrass and bermuda cut at short cutting heights heals faster with less surface (vertical aeration) damage. I need VERTICAL aerating motion because of the height of cut of my lawn. Today I cut my Tif Eagle bermuda (oh yeah, I forgot, you don't know anything about bermuda) croquet court at 0.160" (or 5/32 inch) As far as your cricism of my lawn photos, to your simple mind that is equal to thickness of 33 sheets of 20lb copy paper. When you regularly cut your lawn at that height, then you can realistically criticize my (ill posted) photos, (which incidentally, only YOU complained about). Rotary tine aeration (lawnaire IV and V etc) simply won't cut it for my croquet lawn. Rotary aeration will cause scalping at every aeration hole (due to large 1 to 2 inch long SCARS at every entrance point with a rotary aerator) and ruin my 1994 Toro 3100 triplex reels in about 30 seconds. As far as your earlier reply, I surmise you probably only have a ROTARY aerator, like a Lawnaire IV or V. I remain unconvinced you have ever owned or even used a Lawnaire 28. The fact that you didn't mention it by model name and number but only send me a link with a photo of one suggests that is unlikely that you could even afford one. Anyone can copy a photo from a web page. If I purchased one for over $10,000+, I would like to think I would remember the model name and number. My Plugr 400B cost less than $2000 from http://www.plugr.com/ (Matched price from http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html ). If you really own a vertical aerator (in this case a Lawnaire 28 or equivalent) then we have little need for further discussion. I am seriously happy you can afford a Ryan Lawnaire 28 if you own one. Maybe you can understand why the plugr is better fits my needs. As far as durability goes only time will tell. I will say this, I can buy more than 5 Plugrs 400's for the price of one Lawnaire 28. At that rate, if a Plugr only lasts 5 years, I will still save money over time even if I buy a brand NEW machine every five years. I would only use a RYAN Lawnaire IV or V (for that matter, any other POS rotary aerator) for my PASTURE. If you want to discuss this subject further I will be happy to do so, but please discuss FACTS, not OPINIONS. Dr. J PS Now if Plugr (or Ryan or Toro) would send me a check, I will be happy to cash it. "Steveo" wrote in message ... Steveo wrote: "redrover" wrote: And a note to Stevo, just cause you haven't seen one up close doesn't make it junk. I seen enough here to know I don't want one. http://www.wikco.com/Plugr.html As it turns out, redrover sells them. shocking! |
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"redrover" wrote:
My needs were straightforward Riiiight. Nym shift and agree with yourself again, loser. |
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Steveo wrote:
"redrover" wrote: My needs were straightforward Riiiight. Nym shift and agree with yourself again, loser. whats a nym shift? |
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Here are some pictures of holes left by the Plugr.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img_view...erator67fv.jpg I hope this helps. J "notspike" wrote in message ... Jay & Mary Julson wrote: If you like I can take some pictures and email them to you. It may be a while as it is raining here in North Dakota and has been for two days. I can take some pictures of lawns that we did two weeks ago if you like and you can see for your self. Our soil has a lot of clay so I do not know the surronding soil damage potential with more sandy type soil. thanks. if you can post them to the site steveo mentioned that would be greatly appreciated. |
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Here are some pictures I took of holes left by the Plugr.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img_view...erator67fv.jpg I hope this helps. Jay |
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Jay & Mary Julson wrote:
Here are some pictures I took of holes left by the Plugr. http://img188.imageshack.us/img_view...erator67fv.jpg I hope this helps. Jay clean looking holes, not much peripheral damage as with a rotary areator. thanks |
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"Jay & Mary Julson" wrote:
Here are some pictures I took of holes left by the Plugr. OK midco. |
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