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Old 25-05-2003, 09:20 AM
John Whistler
 
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I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had some
pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to get
bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of caffeine.
Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1% solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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Old 25-05-2003, 01:56 PM
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John Whistler wrote in message ...

Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1% solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler


I've never tried it, but to make a 1% solution (assuming they mean by
weight which they probably do), dissolve, if you can, 50 tablets in 1
liter minus 2 tsps of water. (1 ml = 1 g of water, 1 tsp ~ 5 ml) This
is a rough approximation since I'm sure a No Doz tablet weighs more
than 200 mg which makes it hard to know how much water to use to get
even close to exactly 1% caffeine in the final solution.

I have no idea what else might be in No Doz and/or what effect it
might have on plants....

MG
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Old 25-05-2003, 02:32 PM
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Save yourself some money and keep the unused coffee from your morning brew.
I dilute mine 50% with water, fill up a quart sprayer, add about an ounce of
alcohol as a disinfectant (mold can grow on the top otherwise), and spray.

I have no idea what the caffeine concentration is, but I can says that I
have seen the elimination of bush snails through that treatment.

That, and a bunch of other "Home Remedies" are available at the URL below.

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"John Whistler" wrote in message
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I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had some
pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to get
bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of caffeine.
Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1%

solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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Old 25-05-2003, 06:32 PM
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Thank you for your reply.

Michael Gerzog wrote:

John Whistler wrote in message ...

Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1% solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler


I've never tried it, but to make a 1% solution (assuming they mean by
weight which they probably do), dissolve, if you can, 50 tablets in 1
liter minus 2 tsps of water. (1 ml = 1 g of water, 1 tsp ~ 5 ml) This
is a rough approximation since I'm sure a No Doz tablet weighs more
than 200 mg which makes it hard to know how much water to use to get
even close to exactly 1% caffeine in the final solution.

I have no idea what else might be in No Doz and/or what effect it
might have on plants....

MG




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Old 25-05-2003, 07:44 PM
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Hi John, Do yourself a favor & get some stuff called "Thats It" for slugs &
snails. It is not the run of
the mill type pellets but granules so pets won't eat it. I use it in the
greenhouse & cover it when I
water.
I must tell you that there was a discussion about coffee extract & I started
saving my used coffee
dregs. I had a huge bowl full out side & it got rained on. I covered it with
a plastic bag & just
yesterday lifted it up. Found 4 slugs on the plastic bag covered in the
red/brown coffee juice!!
So my experiment is kaput!
Cheers Wendy

"John Whistler" wrote in message
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I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had some
pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to get
bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of caffeine.
Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1%

solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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I don't know about slugs, but spraying the stuff on-, and saturating the
medium of plants infested with bush snails seems to work.

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"Wendy" wrote in message
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Hi John, Do yourself a favor & get some stuff called "Thats It" for slugs

&
snails. It is not the run of
the mill type pellets but granules so pets won't eat it. I use it in the
greenhouse & cover it when I
water.
I must tell you that there was a discussion about coffee extract & I

started
saving my used coffee
dregs. I had a huge bowl full out side & it got rained on. I covered it

with
a plastic bag & just
yesterday lifted it up. Found 4 slugs on the plastic bag covered in the
red/brown coffee juice!!
So my experiment is kaput!
Cheers Wendy

"John Whistler" wrote in message
...
I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had

some
pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to get
bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of

caffeine.
Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1%

solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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Old 26-05-2003, 01:56 AM
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"Ray @ First Rays Orchids" wrote in message ...

I have no idea what the caffeine concentration is


Miniscule, as a percentage by weight. My brain isn't clicking on all
cylinders at the moment, but I think the number is about .08%. (The
amount of caffeine in a 6 oz/240 ml cup of "normal" coffee is
considered to be 200 mg.)

If it works, it works, but I do wonder whether it's really the
caffeine that's doing the working there. IIRC, the University of
Hawaii study found that a 1% solution only deterred the little
buggers, it took a relatively whopping 2% to actually kill them.
Perhaps the snails just prefer tea and go elsewhere when served
coffee.

MG
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Old 26-05-2003, 07:56 AM
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Interesting, I may give it a try although I have so few (I see one every few
weeks) I'll not know if it works unless I get an infestation (god forbid).

For slugs, try a product called "Sluggo" which if I remember correctly is
Iron Phosphate. Non toxic to animals which the other common slug killing
product can't boast. Seems to work well outside in the garden.

Better yet, if you wrap the legs of your benches in a copper strip an inch
or so wide, they won't crawl across it. I also wrapped the frame of my
greenhouse in it (I have a relatively small one - 8'x8' lean-to). We have
LOTS of slugs here in Seattle and I almost never find one in my greenhouse
and if I do, I can usually attribute it to something I've brought in -
tomato plant's I'm hardening off for example.

Another thing I do is leave the alge on the GH walls which they seem to like
then I go out at night, turn on a light in the GH then go outside and look
in - very easy to spot them. Also, if I see their tell tail tracks during
the day, I know to do the night routine until I find the bugger.

"Ray @ First Rays Orchids" wrote in message
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I don't know about slugs, but spraying the stuff on-, and saturating the
medium of plants infested with bush snails seems to work.

--

Ray Barkalow First Rays Orchids
http://www.firstrays.com
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"Wendy" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Hi John, Do yourself a favor & get some stuff called "Thats It" for

slugs
&
snails. It is not the run of
the mill type pellets but granules so pets won't eat it. I use it in the
greenhouse & cover it when I
water.
I must tell you that there was a discussion about coffee extract & I

started
saving my used coffee
dregs. I had a huge bowl full out side & it got rained on. I covered it

with
a plastic bag & just
yesterday lifted it up. Found 4 slugs on the plastic bag covered in the
red/brown coffee juice!!
So my experiment is kaput!
Cheers Wendy

"John Whistler" wrote in message
...
I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had

some
pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to get
bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of

caffeine.
Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I make a 1%

solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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You might be right, but my eyes tell me it works, so who am I to argue with
myself?

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"Ray @ First Rays Orchids" wrote in message

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I have no idea what the caffeine concentration is


Miniscule, as a percentage by weight. My brain isn't clicking on all
cylinders at the moment, but I think the number is about .08%. (The
amount of caffeine in a 6 oz/240 ml cup of "normal" coffee is
considered to be 200 mg.)

If it works, it works, but I do wonder whether it's really the
caffeine that's doing the working there. IIRC, the University of
Hawaii study found that a 1% solution only deterred the little
buggers, it took a relatively whopping 2% to actually kill them.
Perhaps the snails just prefer tea and go elsewhere when served
coffee.

MG





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Old 27-05-2003, 01:08 AM
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"Wendy" wrote in news:[email protected]:

Hi John, Do yourself a favor & get some stuff called "Thats It" for
slugs & snails. It is not the run of
the mill type pellets but granules so pets won't eat it. I use it in
the greenhouse & cover it when I
water.
I must tell you that there was a discussion about coffee extract & I
started saving my used coffee
dregs. I had a huge bowl full out side & it got rained on. I covered
it with a plastic bag & just
yesterday lifted it up. Found 4 slugs on the plastic bag covered in
the red/brown coffee juice!!
So my experiment is kaput!
Cheers Wendy

"John Whistler" wrote in message
...
I've read about a study in Hawaii showing a 1% solution of caffeine
controlling slugs and snails in orchids in this newsgroup. We've had
some pretty wet weather in Virginia lately and they're beginning to
get bothersome. I picked up some No Doz tablets which are 200 mg of
caffeine. Has anyone been trying the caffeine solution? How would I
make a 1%

solution
from 200 mg tablets?
Thanks,
John Whistler



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Slugs are tough as nails I've tried everything pellets, granules, very
expensive spray for slugs, and even including beer, gosh all those tiny
voices singing how dry I am.
The only thing I've found that works for sure is a hammer or a jar of salt
to drop them in.
SPLAT oh what fun sound that is
dusty


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