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19-10-2003, 10:12 PM
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Maybe, but think about the dendrobium delicatum, the flower is very simalur
to the den Kingianum and for as far as I know is visited by the same bugs. The same for gongora grossa*galeata, again the flowers ar simalur to the parents and they are according to the literature all visited by the same insects. Also I don't think that vision is an insects most important sens. Maybe for some but not all. "Mattias Baecklund" schreef in bericht ... fore one most insect pollinators would not be able to distinguish the big Phal flowers it would just look like a big blob too them and the reproduction of the flower would not work. Mattias Baecklund "Ray" skrev i meddelandet ... I'm not sure I'd buy that.... OK, so the flower is bred for improvement, so why does that necessarily make it potentially less hardy for life in the wild. I also challenge you as to whether a plant under my care can afford to be less hardy! Maybe I'm "improving" the hardiness....or at least the tolerance. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Good point. Most probably wouldn't grow in the wild, being bred more for looks and less for hardiness and ability to adapt Shell "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... It is also worth noting that Mother Nature did not create the hybrids which populate most of our collections -- so we don't really know exactly how they would grow in the wild. -- Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message .be... !!!!!!!I'm responding in this new message because for some reason the group posting are gone here too. I can't see any postings on ABPO or RGO. Botrh are completely empty on my side. Half an hour ago they were both full. There were over 200 messages visible in both groups now everything is gone. !!!!! Respond to watering Don't orchids get wet at night to, in nature. When you think of the rainforest, regular rain (day and night) and very high humidity. So why can't we make our plants use to it too? All we need to quarantee is airmovement and that the plant gets a chance to dry up every once in a while. I could be in the deep end right now, but why not? And combine it with a regular use of a funguside and other things I don't think it should be a probleme. For the past 4 years I've been watering irregularly and have still not had any problemes. OK I must admit, if I water in the livingroom at night, the plants are dry about 3 hours later. Maybe that's why I've never had any problemes. Cheers Peter |
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19-10-2003, 11:12 PM
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I think you misunderstood me most Phal. hybrids are made to have big flowers
I was referring too them. I can't really see how Kingianum and gongora grossa x galeata have with phal hybrids like this one http://www.klinge.nl/foto/galerie_744.jpg to do. there flowers aren't tad alike. Mattias Baecklund "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." skrev i meddelandet e... Maybe, but think about the dendrobium delicatum, the flower is very simalur to the den Kingianum and for as far as I know is visited by the same bugs. The same for gongora grossa*galeata, again the flowers ar simalur to the parents and they are according to the literature all visited by the same insects. Also I don't think that vision is an insects most important sens. Maybe for some but not all. "Mattias Baecklund" schreef in bericht ... fore one most insect pollinators would not be able to distinguish the big Phal flowers it would just look like a big blob too them and the reproduction of the flower would not work. Mattias Baecklund "Ray" skrev i meddelandet ... I'm not sure I'd buy that.... OK, so the flower is bred for improvement, so why does that necessarily make it potentially less hardy for life in the wild. I also challenge you as to whether a plant under my care can afford to be less hardy! Maybe I'm "improving" the hardiness....or at least the tolerance. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Good point. Most probably wouldn't grow in the wild, being bred more for looks and less for hardiness and ability to adapt Shell "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... It is also worth noting that Mother Nature did not create the hybrids which populate most of our collections -- so we don't really know exactly how they would grow in the wild. -- Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message .be... !!!!!!!I'm responding in this new message because for some reason the group posting are gone here too. I can't see any postings on ABPO or RGO. Botrh are completely empty on my side. Half an hour ago they were both full. There were over 200 messages visible in both groups now everything is gone. !!!!! Respond to watering Don't orchids get wet at night to, in nature. When you think of the rainforest, regular rain (day and night) and very high humidity. So why can't we make our plants use to it too? All we need to quarantee is airmovement and that the plant gets a chance to dry up every once in a while. I could be in the deep end right now, but why not? And combine it with a regular use of a funguside and other things I don't think it should be a probleme. For the past 4 years I've been watering irregularly and have still not had any problemes. OK I must admit, if I water in the livingroom at night, the plants are dry about 3 hours later. Maybe that's why I've never had any problemes. Cheers Peter |
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20-10-2003, 07:22 AM
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Sorry you're right. I thaught that you used phal as an example for a general
statement. Cheers Peter "Mattias Baecklund" schreef in bericht ... I think you misunderstood me most Phal. hybrids are made to have big flowers I was referring too them. I can't really see how Kingianum and gongora grossa x galeata have with phal hybrids like this one http://www.klinge.nl/foto/galerie_744.jpg to do. there flowers aren't tad alike. Mattias Baecklund "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." skrev i meddelandet e... Maybe, but think about the dendrobium delicatum, the flower is very simalur to the den Kingianum and for as far as I know is visited by the same bugs. The same for gongora grossa*galeata, again the flowers ar simalur to the parents and they are according to the literature all visited by the same insects. Also I don't think that vision is an insects most important sens. Maybe for some but not all. "Mattias Baecklund" schreef in bericht ... fore one most insect pollinators would not be able to distinguish the big Phal flowers it would just look like a big blob too them and the reproduction of the flower would not work. Mattias Baecklund "Ray" skrev i meddelandet ... I'm not sure I'd buy that.... OK, so the flower is bred for improvement, so why does that necessarily make it potentially less hardy for life in the wild. I also challenge you as to whether a plant under my care can afford to be less hardy! Maybe I'm "improving" the hardiness....or at least the tolerance. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Good point. Most probably wouldn't grow in the wild, being bred more for looks and less for hardiness and ability to adapt Shell "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... It is also worth noting that Mother Nature did not create the hybrids which populate most of our collections -- so we don't really know exactly how they would grow in the wild. -- Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message .be... !!!!!!!I'm responding in this new message because for some reason the group posting are gone here too. I can't see any postings on ABPO or RGO. Botrh are completely empty on my side. Half an hour ago they were both full. There were over 200 messages visible in both groups now everything is gone. !!!!! Respond to watering Don't orchids get wet at night to, in nature. When you think of the rainforest, regular rain (day and night) and very high humidity. So why can't we make our plants use to it too? All we need to quarantee is airmovement and that the plant gets a chance to dry up every once in a while. I could be in the deep end right now, but why not? And combine it with a regular use of a funguside and other things I don't think it should be a probleme. For the past 4 years I've been watering irregularly and have still not had any problemes. OK I must admit, if I water in the livingroom at night, the plants are dry about 3 hours later. Maybe that's why I've never had any problemes. Cheers Peter |
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#19
23-10-2003, 10:12 PM
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I water by flooding the plants once a week and have done this with our
tap water ( very hard and tastes awful) for ovefr 5 years and have great plants. The key is to over water so you do not build up salt deposits on the roots. Also letting the plants dry up between watering is important. Once my friend looked after my plants and watered every day... that was a disaster! Rot etc ... I am in Santa Barbara CA with very dry air and plants are inside the house. ron "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message . be... Maybe, but think about the dendrobium delicatum, the flower is very simalur to the den Kingianum and for as far as I know is visited by the same bugs. The same for gongora grossa*galeata, again the flowers ar simalur to the parents and they are according to the literature all visited by the same insects. Also I don't think that vision is an insects most important sens. Maybe for some but not all. "Mattias Baecklund" schreef in bericht ... fore one most insect pollinators would not be able to distinguish the big Phal flowers it would just look like a big blob too them and the reproduction of the flower would not work. Mattias Baecklund "Ray" skrev i meddelandet ... I'm not sure I'd buy that.... OK, so the flower is bred for improvement, so why does that necessarily make it potentially less hardy for life in the wild. I also challenge you as to whether a plant under my care can afford to be less hardy! Maybe I'm "improving" the hardiness....or at least the tolerance. -- Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info! . . . . . . . . . . . "Shell91" wrote in message y.com... Good point. Most probably wouldn't grow in the wild, being bred more for looks and less for hardiness and ability to adapt Shell "Kenni Judd" wrote in message ... It is also worth noting that Mother Nature did not create the hybrids which populate most of our collections -- so we don't really know exactly how they would grow in the wild. -- Kenni Judd Juno Beach Orchids http://www.jborchids.com "Boystrup Pb, ann,..." wrote in message .be... !!!!!!!I'm responding in this new message because for some reason the group posting are gone here too. I can't see any postings on ABPO or RGO. Botrh are completely empty on my side. Half an hour ago they were both full. There were over 200 messages visible in both groups now everything is gone. !!!!! Respond to watering Don't orchids get wet at night to, in nature. When you think of the rainforest, regular rain (day and night) and very high humidity. So why can't we make our plants use to it too? All we need to quarantee is airmovement and that the plant gets a chance to dry up every once in a while. I could be in the deep end right now, but why not? And combine it with a regular use of a funguside and other things I don't think it should be a probleme. For the past 4 years I've been watering irregularly and have still not had any problemes. OK I must admit, if I water in the livingroom at night, the plants are dry about 3 hours later. Maybe that's why I've never had any problemes. Cheers Peter |
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