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Ted's paphs and phrags
I deleted the original message before I remembered to respond, so maybe
I won't get to everything. Question 1, what is the difference between paphs and phrags? Well, you can tell just by looking at the leaves. Or I can... I can't say offhand what is different, phrags are usually more conduplicate (folded in the middle) and the substance is different. Tend to have more shine too. The roots are generally different, with paphs having 'fuzzier' roots. This may be reflective of habitat, since many phrags prefer a moister environment. There is a big difference in the flowers, but the easiest one to see is if you cut open the ovary transversely (in the short direction). Paphs have a tripartite ovary, with the chambers non-distinct. In other words, one big kind of three pointy space in the middle. Phrags have three distinct chambers. At least I seem to remember that being one of the diagnostic features, a taxonomist or somebody who has done slipper flasking more recently than I will probably shoot me down. Question 2, can you clone paphs and phrags? Interestingly, the answer is yes. Or at least you can mericlone Phrag. Sedenii 'Blush' (published in Die Orchideen quite some time ago, and repeated by Oak Hill), and stem prop several different Paphs (anecdotally reported to me by a few different growers who I have no reason to disbelieve). I've personally cloned some Phrag Hanne Popow (starting from flasked material, but still...). Mericloning paphs is not very successful. The limiting factor for all slippers seems to be contamination, in that the meristems are hard to get free of fungus. It can be done, but not in a reliable fashion, and getting sufficient material to start often involves destroying most or all of the growing points on the desired plant. The growth media mericloning slippers hasn't been worked out, of course, given all of the other problems. So, given that mericloning very rarely works and is not unlikely to destroy the parent, it isn't really that popular an option. It is a stated 'Holy Grail' of the slipper community, but I suspect most people who actually make money selling and breeding slippers would just as soon keep the status quo. You can get more money for divisions if you can't make a lot of them. Question 3. There is no question 3... Question 4. Is there a difference besides the new world/ old world distinction. Well, yes. See (1). But the big difference is that they are group incompatible. You can't make Phragmipaphiums. There is one (I think only one) registered, but it probably isn't a true hybrid. You can't make Selenipaphiums, or Cypripaphiums either. Or at least not that I've heard. That alone argues that they are different, and substantially so. This may be (and I'm making s**t up here) due to the evolutionary distance - the American continents split off from the supercontinent a way long time ago, these plants have had plenty of time to drift apart. They are certainly related, I don't think anybody will argue with that, but the fact that they look similar is not really of any consequence. And they aren't that similar, really, not if you have seen a lot of each. Dendrobium phalaenopsis and Phalaenopsis amabile are similar to the unitiated too, but they aren't very closely related. Rob -- Rob's Rules: http://www.msu.edu/~halgren 1) There is always room for one more orchid 2) There is always room for two more orchids 2a. See rule 1 3) When one has insufficient credit to purchase more orchids, obtain more credit |
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