The old biology book I am using says that the "X" precedes a the genus name
in a multigeneric natural hybrid, and the grex name in a interspecies hybrid
of the same genus, but also says both are usually left out...

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"Al" wrote in message
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PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted
in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
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Thanks, Al.

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"Al" wrote in message
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Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar
of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I
say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural
hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

The old biology book I am using says that the "X" precedes a the genus name
in a multigeneric natural hybrid, and the grex name in a interspecies hybrid
of the same genus, but also says both are usually left out...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted
in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar
of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I
say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural
hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

The old biology book I am using says that the "X" precedes a the genus name
in a multigeneric natural hybrid, and the grex name in a interspecies hybrid
of the same genus, but also says both are usually left out...

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

.. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
PS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid literature the
multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usually omitted
in
both natural and artificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they are
pointing out by this that this would not be true in botanical literature.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al.

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .
"Al" wrote in message
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration"
4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar
of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia
pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name
takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending
on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus
when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I
say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural
hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

. . . . . . . . . . .

Hi, I have a Doritis- Phalaenopsis cross. Doritaenopsis. It says on
it's tag: Dpts. Sun Chen Beauty x P. Carmela Pixie. It had a dead spike
when I bought it but started a branching effect. One branch was appox.
an inch long when I bought it, grew to about 8 inches long and now has a
bloom.(the other is there just formed but in a dormant state.) It
blooms a beautiful pink blossom with veins and a red lip. It had two
buds but like the post says above if your room gets too hot or the plant
goes through too radical of a temperature change it can abort it's buds.
I was lucky and only lost one. The branches grow a little smaller than
the spike so I support it by using a pipe cleaner running from the
curved overhead spike down to the branch. Works great. (I did this
because another post mentioned the weight of the blossoms could break
off a branch.) I also mix my spragm (sp) moss and coconut husks. This
also works great as it probably helps in the compacting problem. Hope
this helps......me

Hi, I have a Doritis- Phalaenopsis cross. Doritaenopsis. It says on
it's tag: Dpts. Sun Chen Beauty x P. Carmela Pixie. It had a dead spike
when I bought it but started a branching effect. One branch was appox.
an inch long when I bought it, grew to about 8 inches long and now has a
bloom.(the other is there just formed but in a dormant state.) It
blooms a beautiful pink blossom with veins and a red lip. It had two
buds but like the post says above if your room gets too hot or the plant
goes through too radical of a temperature change it can abort it's buds.
I was lucky and only lost one. The branches grow a little smaller than
the spike so I support it by using a pipe cleaner running from the
curved overhead spike down to the branch. Works great. (I did this
because another post mentioned the weight of the blossoms could break
off a branch.) I also mix my spragm (sp) moss and coconut husks. This
also works great as it probably helps in the compacting problem. Hope
this helps......me

Also how about Neostylus?

Also how about Neostylus?

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:28:30 -0600 (CST),
wrote:

Hi, I have a Doritis- Phalaenopsis cross. Doritaenopsis. It says on
it's tag: Dpts. Sun Chen Beauty x P. Carmela Pixie. It had a dead spike


Your hybrid has been registered. The name of Dtps. Sun Chen
Beauty x P. Carmela Pixie is now Dtps. Taisuco Pixie. It was
registered by the Taiwan Sugar Co. in 1994.
SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php

Thank you Sue......Burr

Xref: kermit rec.gardens.orchids:54995

Natural hybrids like Dendrobium *delicatum (= den kingianum*den speciosum)
and sarcochillus *fitshart (=sarco fitsgeraldi*hartmanii) are not written
with a capital letter. They are written like normal species, jus with a X or
* in front of it. Another orchid I know of is cattleya *guatemalensis (=catt
aurantiaca*catt skinneri)
Cheers
Peter


"Al" schreef in bericht
...
Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature and Registration" 4th
edition 1993
Page 4 under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids
there are two examples cited:

"x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultivar name of a cultivar of
the
natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

"x Dactyglossum mixtum (Dactylorhiza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining which name takes
precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on
when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when
it
was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

"Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say
the
way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids,
both
inter-species and intergeneric.

I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an
inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

Anyone know any good examples?

--

Ray Barkalow - First Rays Orchids - www.firstrays.com
Plants, Supplies, Books, Artwork, and Lots of Free Info!

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