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Old 24-03-2005, 11:27 PM
Kenni Judd
 
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She should be fed regularly, whether in bloom or not. But before you start
feeding, check the mix and see if it's full of time-release fertilizer
pellets. If it is, then wait a few weeks, otherwise, start soon with a
dilute balanced fert. solution every 3-4 waterings. By dilute, I mean about
half of the label directions, and by balanced, I mean that the 3 numbers
should be relatively close -- e.g., 20-20-20, or 9-7-5, not 5-60-15 or
10-10-60.. Kenni

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come to think of it, i have another question (sorry guys) but when
should i start fertilizing her?



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Old 24-03-2005, 11:38 PM
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yeah, see, i rewrote that message about five times before sending it,
then didn't reread it before posting..... ignorance on my part....
Connecticut, where the snowstorm just hit. also, thinking about it, it
was overly cloudy today with the snowstorm and all. the corner is well
lit, when theres a sun. If the leaves get yellow or dark, i can always
move her, its not like its an entire greenhouse to move... The
humourous part of your post was that she was purchased at a home depot,
when i was looking for new paintbrushes.... she was $17.99.and since
there are two plants, its kind of a bargin... all the other pots had
one plant. If the non-flowering one doesn't spike in the fall, I can
always say i tried, and if one of them doesn't live i can always say it
never existed.

If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried the
first times.

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Old 25-03-2005, 06:10 AM
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On 24 Mar 2005 15:38:56 -0800, "Danielle"
wrote:

yeah, see, i rewrote that message about five times before sending it,
then didn't reread it before posting..... ignorance on my part....
Connecticut, where the snowstorm just hit. also, thinking about it, it
was overly cloudy today with the snowstorm and all. the corner is well
lit, when theres a sun. If the leaves get yellow or dark, i can always
move her, its not like its an entire greenhouse to move... The
humourous part of your post was that she was purchased at a home depot,
when i was looking for new paintbrushes.... she was $17.99.and since
there are two plants, its kind of a bargin... all the other pots had
one plant. If the non-flowering one doesn't spike in the fall, I can
always say i tried, and if one of them doesn't live i can always say it
never existed.

If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried the
first times.


If I remember right you said you had an African violet. The Phal
will love to cozy up to the African. It takes that same defused
light. The two will help each other with the humidity especially
if you actually have 4-5 Africans to encircle the Phal. G
Welcome to the Orchid-phile Nut house. We are all crazy about
the same thing here. We just can not agree on which orchid is
worth growing. G

SuE
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Old 25-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
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2. I'm kind of surprized there are two plants in the pot...


Rob,

I have been seeing the 2 plants in one pot much more often recently, I think
it's a new commercial vendors/retailers scheme to attract the mass market
even more, to make buyers think "two plants for the price of one, what a
bargain." At some point I saw Dendrobiums potted in one pot with Phals --
which to me was a complete turn-off, since I can grow Phals, but don't have
enough light for Dends. The last time I visited my local plant nursery
nearby, they had lots of two Phals potted together, both in spike. I know
that this is not something that the old-time respectable orchid vendor would
do (since two plants together increases the risk of disease transfer from
plant to plant, and causes them to compete for resources), but the new hype
commercial mass market vendors are doing it.

Best,
Joanna


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Old 25-03-2005, 03:25 PM
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I have been seeing the 2 plants in one pot much more often recently, I think
it's a new commercial vendors/retailers scheme to attract the mass market
even more, to make buyers think "two plants for the price of one, what a
bargain." At some point I saw Dendrobiums potted in one pot with Phals --
which to me was a complete turn-off, since I can grow Phals, but don't have
enough light for Dends. The last time I visited my local plant nursery
nearby, they had lots of two Phals potted together, both in spike. I know
that this is not something that the old-time respectable orchid vendor would
do (since two plants together increases the risk of disease transfer from
plant to plant, and causes them to compete for resources), but the new hype
commercial mass market vendors are doing it.


Oh, I don't know if it actually offends me. As long as the plants are
compatible and properly labelled. Two phals in one pot sounds like a
great idea, if they are the same clone. They probably grow better that
way (for the same reason we grow seedlings in compots).

For the mass market, it sounds like a darn good marketing strategy.
Wish I had thought of it. People pay good premiums for planters with a
mix of annuals that they can just put on their doorstep. Don't see any
reason that a properly designed mix of orchids in one pot would be a bad
thing. Remember, most of these people are throwing the plants away
after the flowers fall. With a good mix of plants in various stages of
bloom, they actually get more for their money.

I don't think it is something that a boutique grower (orchid
specialist) could get away with. Different market.

Rob

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1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit



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Old 25-03-2005, 07:35 PM
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I had been seeing orchids everywhere for about $20, so i think the two
plants in mine was a mistake, all the other ones only had one plant,
everywhere i went, and if all goes well, i get to watch a new flower
spike and see different flowers next fall, possibly different from the
ones i have now. Its still a phal though, but im quite happy with her
anyways.

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Old 25-03-2005, 10:25 PM
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Welcome to the Orchid-phile Nut house. We are all crazy about
the same thing here. We just can not agree on which orchid is
worth growing. G


Huh? I thought we agreed that they are all worth growing!

Diana (fighting the "Great Roofing Wars" & trying to find time for the
ng's!)


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Old 25-03-2005, 10:56 PM
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Hi, Rob: You immediately hit on the biggest problems (compatibility &
accurate labels) with the multi-plant deals as a concept; the H.D. near me
can't even tell Dens from Oncids -- picture a shelf full of Onc. Gower
Ramsey sporting labels that read "Den. Earsakul," across the aisle from a
shelf of Den. Bom Jo 'Earsakul' all tagged Onc. Gower Ramsey ... Anyway, I
can't imagine that the idea of multiple plants in a pot could be patented,
so go for it G.

To me, the biggest problem with Danielle's purchase is that it was
intentionally packaged in a misleading way. Yes, most of us who post here
would have known to look for the plastic pot inside the clay, at a place
like that, but Danielle obviously didn't, and I doubt she's the only one
who's been surprised after getting home with such a purchase. Those clay
pots aren't intended to attract the throw-away customer, who will almost
certainly put the plant into something more decorative anyway. They are
purposely aimed at folks who've troubled themselves to learn at least a
little bit, because they're buying a _plant_, something they hope to enjoy
for years, not just flowers for temporary decoration.

Kenni

"Rob Halgren" wrote in message
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Oh, I don't know if it actually offends me. As long as the plants are
compatible and properly labelled. Two phals in one pot sounds like a
great idea, if they are the same clone. They probably grow better that
way (for the same reason we grow seedlings in compots).

For the mass market, it sounds like a darn good marketing strategy.
Wish I had thought of it. People pay good premiums for planters with a
mix of annuals that they can just put on their doorstep. Don't see any
reason that a properly designed mix of orchids in one pot would be a bad
thing. Remember, most of these people are throwing the plants away
after the flowers fall. With a good mix of plants in various stages of
bloom, they actually get more for their money.

I don't think it is something that a boutique grower (orchid
specialist) could get away with. Different market.

Rob

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Rob's Rules: http://littlefrogfarm.com
1) There is always room for one more orchid
2) There is always room for two more orchids
2a) See rule 1
3) When one has insufficient credit to obtain more
orchids, obtain more credit



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Old 26-03-2005, 11:47 PM
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I read the little tag on support stick after i bought it and it said
"what happens after the flowers fall off? Don't be afraid to throw it
out... we'll grow more" i was offended... it that normal oh, and
UPDATE: another bud popped open.... ooooh, so pretty, now i have 5
sweet lil' flowers....awww!!!!

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Old 26-03-2005, 11:51 PM
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I was buying it for years... but the label suggested to throw it out
because "we'll grow more" i almost cried... thats so sad!!!!!



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Old 27-03-2005, 02:05 AM
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Hi Danielle, It's a conspiracy!!! Does the label have a growers name? They
obviously don't know about orchid fever. *g*
Welcome to the group & good luck with your plant.
Cheers Wendy
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Old 27-03-2005, 04:46 PM
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it does it says *walks over and kisses the pretty new flower, then read
the tag* Grown by Kerry's Bromeliad Nursery Inc. Florida.

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Old 29-03-2005, 10:49 PM
 
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:56:26 -0500 in Kenni Judd wrote:
To me, the biggest problem with Danielle's purchase is that it was
intentionally packaged in a misleading way. Yes, most of us who post here
would have known to look for the plastic pot inside the clay, at a place
like that, but Danielle obviously didn't, and I doubt she's the only one
who's been surprised after getting home with such a purchase. Those clay
pots aren't intended to attract the throw-away customer, who will almost
certainly put the plant into something more decorative anyway. They are
purposely aimed at folks who've troubled themselves to learn at least a
little bit, because they're buying a _plant_, something they hope to enjoy
for years, not just flowers for temporary decoration.


My current favorite is Lowes selling vandas with nice instructions on
planting the thing in the ground.

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Old 31-03-2005, 02:40 AM
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aren't orchids not supposed to be in the ground? or was that the point
of posting it? yeah, probably was... don't worry, im ok...

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On 30 Mar 2005 17:40:22 -0800 in .com Danielle wrote:
aren't orchids not supposed to be in the ground? or was that the point
of posting it? yeah, probably was... don't worry, im ok...


Depends on the type of orchid.
Vandas definitely should not be planted in dirt.

Kind of sick of Lowes to have instructions on planting
a vanda in soil, on the label identifying it as vanda.


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