I have an enclosed cat cage! I planted grape vines on the outside of
the cage. In the last three years the vines have totally enclosed the
top of the cage. Have been buying plants from the Nurseries that claim
that these plants can grow in shade! I often look up such claims and
see that it actually grows in semi-shade. I use such places as Dave;s
Garden to check out the plants.


Even so. those listed as being able to grow in shade and check out in
other web pages as being able to grow in shade, all these so-called
plants fold under the shade of these grape vines! Are there any such
plants out there that can grow in very shady places? The only success
I have had is with plants that come up in March, still freezing
weather, and do their thing and die back before the vines really shade
out the inside cage area!

chatnoir wrote:
I have an enclosed cat cage! I planted grape vines on the outside of
the cage. In the last three years the vines have totally enclosed the
top of the cage. Have been buying plants from the Nurseries that claim
that these plants can grow in shade! I often look up such claims and
see that it actually grows in semi-shade. I use such places as Dave;s
Garden to check out the plants.


Even so. those listed as being able to grow in shade and check out in
other web pages as being able to grow in shade, all these so-called
plants fold under the shade of these grape vines! Are there any such
plants out there that can grow in very shady places? The only success
I have had is with plants that come up in March, still freezing
weather, and do their thing and die back before the vines really shade
out the inside cage area!

First things first: Where are you? IOW, what is your growing zone? What
is your soil type? Here in Dallas TX (alkaline carbonate seabed)
Nandina thrives against the north sides of buildings and beneath dense
forest canopies.

-Echosyn

Echosyn wrote:
chatnoir wrote:
I have an enclosed cat cage! I planted grape vines on the outside of
the cage. In the last three years the vines have totally enclosed the
top of the cage. Have been buying plants from the Nurseries that claim
that these plants can grow in shade! I often look up such claims and
see that it actually grows in semi-shade. I use such places as Dave;s
Garden to check out the plants.


Even so. those listed as being able to grow in shade and check out in
other web pages as being able to grow in shade, all these so-called
plants fold under the shade of these grape vines! Are there any such
plants out there that can grow in very shady places? The only success
I have had is with plants that come up in March, still freezing
weather, and do their thing and die back before the vines really shade
out the inside cage area!

First things first: Where are you? IOW, what is your growing zone? What
is your soil type? Here in Dallas TX (alkaline carbonate seabed)
Nandina thrives against the north sides of buildings and beneath dense
forest canopies.

-Echosyn

Growing Zone is Zone 5! Denver Colorado! Soil is a clay soil
although I add as mauch organic matter as I can! Have tried most
plants! They do good until early August when I guess they run out of
stored food reserves!

Looks like all the Nandina is outside My growing zone!@


http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/80766/index.html

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59692/index.html

I did see one variety that would grow in zone 5a but it had no vendors
listed!

Well outside of the cage Boston Ivy growns in the margin between the
Cage and the Fence! Where the Grape Vines and the Hop vines from the
Fences overlap, the hops runs all over the grape vines! The red
scarlett runner beans often grow up in this margin and run all over the
hops and grape vines! But in the center of the cage covered by the
grape vines, all plants I have planted fold!

chatnoir wrote:
Echosyn wrote:
chatnoir wrote:
I have an enclosed cat cage! I planted grape vines on the outside of
the cage. In the last three years the vines have totally enclosed the
top of the cage. Have been buying plants from the Nurseries that claim
that these plants can grow in shade! I often look up such claims and
see that it actually grows in semi-shade. I use such places as Dave;s
Garden to check out the plants.


Even so. those listed as being able to grow in shade and check out in
other web pages as being able to grow in shade, all these so-called
plants fold under the shade of these grape vines! Are there any such
plants out there that can grow in very shady places? The only success
I have had is with plants that come up in March, still freezing
weather, and do their thing and die back before the vines really shade
out the inside cage area!

First things first: Where are you? IOW, what is your growing zone? What
is your soil type? Here in Dallas TX (alkaline carbonate seabed)
Nandina thrives against the north sides of buildings and beneath dense
forest canopies.

-Echosyn

Growing Zone is Zone 5! Denver Colorado! Soil is a clay soil
although I add as mauch organic matter as I can! Have tried most
plants! They do good until early August when I guess they run out of
stored food reserves!

Looks like all the Nandina is outside My growing zone!@


http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/80766/index.html

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/59692/index.html

I did see one variety that would grow in zone 5a but it had no vendors
listed!

Well outside of the cage Boston Ivy growns in the margin between the
Cage and the Fence! Where the Grape Vines and the Hop vines from the
Fences overlap, the hops runs all over the grape vines! The red
scarlett runner beans often grow up in this margin and run all over the
hops and grape vines! But in the center of the cage covered by the
grape vines, all plants I have planted fold!

Add lava sand to your soil. In depth information is found in the
gardening newsgroup where agronomy questions are appropriate. The
active members of this ng reflect its title: Botany. They are primarily
professionals who are focused on floral science.

-Echosyn