I am working with my daughter (5th grade), to complete a science project,
where she has collected a number of plants from the area (central
California), and is identifying then and describing their characteristics.

There are two that I recognize as very common native plants, but simply
cannot remember their names! Could someone please look at the three
pictures I have posted on one of my web sites, and help i.d. them?

http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180022.JPG and
http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180024.JPG are one plant,

http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180029.JPG is the other.

Thanks!

Dave Bell
(remove the obvious from my email address or reply to the group)

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I am working with my daughter (5th grade), to complete a science project,
where she has collected a number of plants from the area (central
California), and is identifying then and describing their characteristics.

There are two that I recognize as very common native plants, but simply
cannot remember their names! Could someone please look at the three
pictures I have posted on one of my web sites, and help i.d. them?

http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180022.JPG and
http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180024.JPG are one plant,

_Anagallis arvensis_ [family Primulaceae]. Better known as "scarlet
pimpernel". [not native to California]

http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/fl..._arvensis.html
http://www.ct-botanical-society.org/...allisarve.html
http://polyland.lib.calpoly.edu/over...ropogenic.html

http://www.AdvanceAssociates.com/images/05180029.JPG is the other.

Erodium sp. [family Geraniaceae] Called "cranesbill" or "filaree"
[More than one species are often weedy in California. Also not
a California native]

http://polyland.lib.calpoly.edu/over...tml#storksbill
http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/WEEDS/filarees.html
http://www.serg.sdsu.edu/plants/sdpl...moschatum.html
http://www.serg.sdsu.edu/plants/sdpl...um_botrys.html
http://www.serg.sdsu.edu/plants/sdpl...icutarium.html
http://www.calflora.net/bloomingplan...emfilaree.html
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/fruitid2.htm
http://www.calflora.net/bloomingplan...torksbill.html

Best wishes for her project.

cheers

I am working with my daughter (5th grade), to complete a science project,

This always rattles my chain. If it is your daughter's project, she should be
doing the work. If she is of normal intelligence and cannot complete the
project without adult help, then it is not an appropriate 5th grade homework
project, or it needs to be completed in school, & you should tell the teacher.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

On Tue, 20 May 2003, mel turner wrote:

I am working with my daughter (5th grade), to complete a science project,

There are two that I recognize as very common native plants, but simply

_Anagallis arvensis_ [family Primulaceae]. Better known as "scarlet
pimpernel". [not native to California]

Erodium sp. [family Geraniaceae] Called "cranesbill" or "filaree"
[More than one species are often weedy in California. Also not
a California native]

Best wishes for her project.

cheers

Thank you very much for your help, Mel! I'll have her check out those
sites, as well.

I'm not surprised they aren't native; I've seen them all my life, and
never realized they were imports...

Dave

Anagallis arvensis_ [family Primulaceae]. Better known as "scarlet
pimpernel".

It is originally from Europe. Remember the book, and the film with Danny Kaye?
It's a little cutie, but unfortunately it is an annual and does not take to
captivity. The normal color is orange, hence the common name. There is also a
blue form, which is even prettier. Also unfortunately, in downtown Syracuse
near the hospitals, it is very widespread, but the two forms interbreed,
producing a muddy lavender.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

On 20 May 2003, Iris Cohen wrote:

Anagallis arvensis_ [family Primulaceae]. Better known as "scarlet
pimpernel".

It is originally from Europe. Remember the book, and the film with Danny Kaye?

"The Court Jester" - Yea, verily yea!

Though that was the Purple Pimpernel - likely one of those cross-breeds...

Dave

It's a little cutie, but unfortunately it is an annual and does not take to
captivity. The normal color is orange, hence the common name. There is also a
blue form, which is even prettier. Also unfortunately, in downtown Syracuse
near the hospitals, it is very widespread, but the two forms interbreed,
producing a muddy lavender.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)

"Iris Cohen" wrote in message
...
Anagallis arvensis_ [family Primulaceae]. Better known as "scarlet
pimpernel".

It is originally from Europe. Remember the book, and the film with Danny
Kaye?
It's a little cutie, but unfortunately it is an annual and does not take
to
captivity. The normal color is orange, hence the common name. There is
also a
blue form, which is even prettier.

Two blue forms, in fact. One is a separate subspecies (ssp. foemina) which
always seems to be blue, and has morphological differences in the
corolla-lobe; and the other is a blue colour variety of ssp. arvensis.

Also unfortunately, in downtown Syracuse
near the hospitals, it is very widespread, but the two forms interbreed,
producing a muddy lavender.

The lavender or pinkish form is usually written down as a variety of ssp.
arvensis, but I didn't know it was a product of hybridization. In the UK
I've seen this more often than either of the blue plants, which is still
'very rarely'. There's also said to be a white form, which I've never seen.
ssp. foemina is much commoner farther S in Europe.

From: (Iris Cohen)

I am working with my daughter (5th grade), to complete a science project,


This always rattles my chain. If it is your daughter's project, she should be
doing the work. If she is of normal intelligence and cannot complete the
project without adult help, then it is not an appropriate 5th grade homework
project, or it needs to be completed in school, & you should tell the
teacher.

On her side, 11 year old girls are often too embarrased to ask advice from
strangers.

Sean



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On her side, 11 year old girls are often too embarrassed to ask advice from
strangers.

Not my point. If she needs to ask for help, it should be from her teacher or
the school librarian, hardly strangers.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)