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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
http://www.fotop.net/KingGhidora/plant_photos
I found this berry plant growing on the north side of a limestone rock overhang. I'm guess it might be Elderberry but that's just a guess. Can anyone give me the correct name for this plant? ------------------------------------- There's a place on this earth my people call home, There's hills and hollers everywhere and lots of room to roam, We're noted for our hard times and God's greatest creation, We're the people of the Hillbilly Nation. |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Nope, its not Elderberry. Elderberry is a shrub.
Its Maianthemum (formerly Smilacina) racemosum. "King Ghidora" wrote in message ... http://www.fotop.net/KingGhidora/plant_photos I found this berry plant growing on the north side of a limestone rock overhang. I'm guess it might be Elderberry but that's just a guess. Can anyone give me the correct name for this plant? ------------------------------------- There's a place on this earth my people call home, There's hills and hollers everywhere and lots of room to roam, We're noted for our hard times and God's greatest creation, We're the people of the Hillbilly Nation. |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
On 12 Jul 2004 13:53:29 GMT, Iris Cohen wrote:
False Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata. I don't think they are edible. It is a very common woodland plant. And the mnemonic for telling false Solomon's seal from Solomon's seal is that the real King Solomon signed each letter individually, but the false one waited till he got to the end and signed all of them at once. (False Solomon's seal has flowers/fruit at the end of the plant, the "true" kind has a flower/fruit at each leaf.) cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild (but formerly from Ohio) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
I guess nobody told you, Iris.
All former Smilacina are now in Maianthemum. "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... False Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata. I don't think they are edible. It is a very common woodland plant. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Interesting bit of folklore.
Too bad its only partially true. So how can you explain away Heteropolygonatum with both terminal and axillary flowers? "M. Tiefert" wrote in message newspsa1eqgq7adtv40@matservices... On 12 Jul 2004 13:53:29 GMT, Iris Cohen wrote: False Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata. I don't think they are edible. It is a very common woodland plant. And the mnemonic for telling false Solomon's seal from Solomon's seal is that the real King Solomon signed each letter individually, but the false one waited till he got to the end and signed all of them at once. (False Solomon's seal has flowers/fruit at the end of the plant, the "true" kind has a flower/fruit at each leaf.) cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild (but formerly from Ohio) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Thanks for the help but it's not too common in my neck of
the woods. I have spent a lot of time in the woods in my tme and I don't remember every seeing this particular plant here. It's probably just not common in this area. We used to try and stump my grandmother on plants when I was a kid. She was a horticulture major in college and she pretty much knew every plant you could find. In fact we never found anything she couldn't identify quickly. My point here is that we looked for unusal plants but I don't remember ever seeing one of these. No one else I have asked from this area has seen one either. Anyway thanks again for the help. On 12 Jul 2004 13:53:29 GMT, (Iris Cohen) wrote: :False Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata. I don't think they are edible. It is :a very common woodland plant. :Iris, :Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 :"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming :train." :Robert Lowell (1917-1977) ------------------------------------- There's a place on this earth my people call home, There's hills and hollers everywhere and lots of room to roam, We're noted for our hard times and God's greatest creation, We're the people of the Hillbilly Nation. |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:09:37 GMT, Cereus-validus
wrote: Interesting bit of folklore. Too bad its only partially true. So how can you explain away Heteropolygonatum with both terminal and axillary flowers? Simple - I've never seen any! ;-) Do they grow in southern Ohio? cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Ignorance is bliss!!!
Wouldn't it be better if you were in Missouri, the "Show Me " state? There are many things that don't grow in Ohio, Larg Marj. "M. Tiefert" wrote in message newspsa3b8unaadtv40@matservices... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:09:37 GMT, Cereus-validus wrote: Interesting bit of folklore. Too bad its only partially true. So how can you explain away Heteropolygonatum with both terminal and axillary flowers? Simple - I've never seen any! ;-) Do they grow in southern Ohio? cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:46:44 GMT, Cereus-validus
wrote: Ignorance is bliss!!! Wouldn't it be better if you were in Missouri, the "Show Me " state? There are many things that don't grow in Ohio, Larg Marj. "M. Tiefert" wrote in message newspsa3b8unaadtv40@matservices... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:09:37 GMT, Cereus-validus wrote: Interesting bit of folklore. Too bad its only partially true. So how can you explain away Heteropolygonatum with both terminal and axillary flowers? Simple - I've never seen any! ;-) Do they grow in southern Ohio? It was merely a mnemonic for telling one kind from one other kind. Not even folklore - just a way of keeping the two straight. Why are you making such a big deal out of it? Life's too short... cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
I'm not making a big deal out of it, Larg Marg.
You are the one keeping this thread going. The point was that your simplistic mnemonic may be true for the few species found in Ohio but is not true for the rest of the world. The same for the old adage that all Lamiaceae have square stems. That may be true for North American and European species but, most but not all do worldwide. There are many species in other plant families with square stems also. Common knowledge is usually wrong! "M. Tiefert" wrote in message newspsa463wu4adtv40@matservices... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:46:44 GMT, Cereus-validus wrote: Ignorance is bliss!!! Wouldn't it be better if you were in Missouri, the "Show Me " state? There are many things that don't grow in Ohio, Larg Marj. "M. Tiefert" wrote in message newspsa3b8unaadtv40@matservices... On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:09:37 GMT, Cereus-validus wrote: Interesting bit of folklore. Too bad its only partially true. So how can you explain away Heteropolygonatum with both terminal and axillary flowers? Simple - I've never seen any! ;-) Do they grow in southern Ohio? It was merely a mnemonic for telling one kind from one other kind. Not even folklore - just a way of keeping the two straight. Why are you making such a big deal out of it? Life's too short... cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
I think another one of my messages got lost. I wrote that the plant in question
is false Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata or Smilacina racemosa. That should be the end of the discussion. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Sorry but you are not the last word on the subject, babe.
You are out-of-date, Iris. Smilacina is now considered synonymous with Maianthemum. "Iris Cohen" wrote in message ... I think another one of my messages got lost. I wrote that the plant in question is false Solomon's seal, Smilacina stellata or Smilacina racemosa. That should be the end of the discussion. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
Smilacina is now considered synonymous with Maianthemum.
I wondered about that, since false Solomon's seal was also listed under that name. Thanks for the update. From looking at pictures of both species, I would guess that the plant in question is Maianthemum racemosum, the feathery false Solomon's seal. Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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Help Wanted
Turns out the request is from a college student in Croatia who is struggling
with English texts. I sent him a couple of URLs with drawings. Anybody here speak Croatian? Iris, Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40 "If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming train." Robert Lowell (1917-1977) |
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question about a berry plant from southern Ohio
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:09:44 GMT, Cereus-validus
wrote: I'm not making a big deal out of it, Larg Marg. You're the one who's getting upset about it. ...The point was that your simplistic mnemonic may be true for the few species found in Ohio but is not true for the rest of the world. And my point is that the OP was specifically asking about Ohio plants, so an Ohio-specific answer is appropriate. Have a nice rest of the day! :-) cheers, Marj -- Mediterranean Garden Advice and Shop: http://stores.tiefert.com/garden/ Also: http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/...gardening.html In Sunset zone 14-mild |
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