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Old 10-10-2004, 02:03 AM
Dirk Bussiere
 
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am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the
process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the
context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be
able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria:

Natural products which a

1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined

Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be
welcome.

-Dirk

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Old 10-10-2004, 03:13 AM
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am an MBA student BRBR
Natural products which a
1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in
bulk BRBR

Common sense.

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources BRBR

Maple sap

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic
industries BRBR

Both of the above.

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined BRBR

Maple sap, yes. Dunno if there is a gene for common sense. Some of us have it;
some don't. It is not confined to humans.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
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train."
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Old 10-10-2004, 03:29 AM
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Enzymes




"Dirk Bussiere" wrote in message
m...
am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the
process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the
context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be
able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria:

Natural products which a

1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize

in bulk

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic

industries

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined

Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be
welcome.

-Dirk



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Old 11-10-2004, 07:24 PM
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Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla
flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich.

M. Reed



Dirk Bussiere wrote:

am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the
process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the
context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be
able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria:

Natural products which a

1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize in bulk

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic industries

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined

Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be
welcome.

-Dirk


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˙WPC5


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Old 13-10-2004, 01:49 AM
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"Monique Reed"

Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla
flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich.

M. Reed



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Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too!



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At a Scottish wedding the bridegroom, as was
customary at a wedding breakfast, arose to
respond to the toast of the health of the bride. He
was not used to public speaking and, words
failing him, he contented himself with the response,
"Well, there's naething wrang with the woman" ; and
in proposing the toast of "Applied Science" he
should like to point the moral of this story, and say
that there was nothing wrong with it ; that it was in a
state of absolute health, and in this country, as well
as in others, it was in a state of marvelous fertility,
and as each branch of Applied Sciences was apparently
capable of producing any number of other branches of
Applied Science, as time went on they might expect
a somewhat numerous family.

Sir William Ramsay K.C.B.. D.Sc., LL.D., lF.R.S.
Bradford, Wednesday, July 15, 1903.


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Old 13-10-2004, 02:35 AM
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Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald.

To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing
the plants in full bloom!!!



"donald j haarmann" wrote in message
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"Monique Reed"

Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla
flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich.

M. Reed



-------------
Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too!



--
donald j haarmann
------------------------------
At a Scottish wedding the bridegroom, as was
customary at a wedding breakfast, arose to
respond to the toast of the health of the bride. He
was not used to public speaking and, words
failing him, he contented himself with the response,
"Well, there's naething wrang with the woman" ; and
in proposing the toast of "Applied Science" he
should like to point the moral of this story, and say
that there was nothing wrong with it ; that it was in a
state of absolute health, and in this country, as well
as in others, it was in a state of marvelous fertility,
and as each branch of Applied Sciences was apparently
capable of producing any number of other branches of
Applied Science, as time went on they might expect
a somewhat numerous family.

Sir William Ramsay K.C.B.. D.Sc., LL.D., lF.R.S.
Bradford, Wednesday, July 15, 1903.




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Old 13-10-2004, 04:18 AM
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"Monique Reed"

Man, if you could make really good synthetic saffron or vanilla
flavoring, identical to the natural stuff, you'd be rich.

M. Reed



-------------
Self pollinating vanilla bean plants would work too!



--
donald j haarmann
------------------------------


(Top posting repaired)

Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald.

To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to
be growing the plants in full bloom!!!



The word "vanilla" comes from another word meaning "little bean",
are you proposing a name change from "Vanilla" to "Testicula"? Then
you will have a plant named after a part of you!

In the normal course of events, you need to have a plant growing in
full bloom no matter how you pollinate them.

Sean

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Old 13-10-2004, 07:33 PM
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Vanilla is a genus of orchid not a bean, Donald.
To be able to self pollinate the flowers, you would first need to be growing

the plants in full bloom!!! BRBR

Actually I believe the vanilla fruit is considered a pod, but it is often
called a bean. It is quite different from other orchid fruits, most of which
are capsules. One reason vanilla is so expensive is that the vanilla pods
require extensive preparation before the vanilla essence is extracted.

The word "vanilla" comes from another word meaning "little bean",

Not true. It comes from the Spanish word vainilla, meaning a little sheath. It
is from the same Latin root as vagina.
Another reason why vanilla is so labor intensive, & hence expensive, is that
there is no natural pollinator in the parts of the world where it is grown
today. It has to be hand pollinated. Since the flowers only last a day or so,
the workers have to go through the plantation on a daily basis to pollinate
them.
Another problem is that there are several viruses which attack vanilla vines.
The person who develops a self-pollinating, disease-resistant vanilla cultivar
will definitely have it made.

Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:26 AM
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The product "Melange" from the planet Dune (Arrakis) !

Just a SciFi joke :-)

MVH

"Dirk Bussiere" skrev i melding
m...
am an MBA student (also, a Ph.D. in biochemistry) who is in the
process of writing a business plan as a class assignment. In the
context of this assignment, I was wondering if anyone might be
able to suggest natural products which fit the following criteria:

Natural products which a

1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize

in bulk

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic

industries

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined

Number 4 is not absolutely necessary; #1-3 are. Suggestions would be
welcome.

-Dirk





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Old 12-10-2004, 02:01 PM
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Natural products which a

1) Impossible, extremely difficult, or extremely expensive to synthesize

in bulk

2) Hard or inefficient to isolate from natural sources

3) Of commercial interest to pharmaceutical, vitamin, food, or cosmetic

industries

4) The biosynthetic pathway (genes) has been outlined BRBR


Pinon pine nuts, pignolis. I also second the motion on saffron and vanilla.
Iris,
Central NY, Zone 5a, Sunset Zone 40
"If we see light at the end of the tunnel, It's the light of the oncoming
train."
Robert Lowell (1917-1977)
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