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I am build wood bridge to be place on an pond. I would like to paint
the bridge. However, I am concerned with moisture from the pond will
make the paint peel. Is there a way to protect the paint? Can I apply
polyurethane over the paint?
How about using color stain on the bridge?

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We used Behr deck paint over (don't tell) treated lumber. Holds up
fine. We reapint the top surfaces. Bottom does not need it. No
peeling as of a decade.

Jim

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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
We used Behr deck paint over (don't tell) treated lumber. Holds up
fine. We reapint the top surfaces. Bottom does not need it. No
peeling as of a decade.


More important, I think, is to protect against subterranean termites with
either concrete or stone footings.

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Yup! Termites should be thought about.

Our treated lumber is termite resistant and could technically stand in
water longer than I will live. However, we have cement footings.

More important, I think, is to protect against subterranean termites with
either concrete or stone footings.


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On Mar 30, 6:57 pm, "Phyllis and Jim"
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We used Behr deck paint over (don't tell) treated lumber. Holds up
fine. We reapint the top surfaces. Bottom does not need it. No
peeling as of a decade.

Jim


I am not using treated lumber, since I have fish in the pond. I am
thinking using redwood instead, but painted with latex paint to match
the color of the gazebo. The bottom need not to be painted, but what's
the best way to provide additional waterproofing. The bridge is not
touching water but the bottom of the frame is about 1 foot above
water .


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The bottom need not to be painted, but what's
the best way to provide additional waterproofing.


You might check with a local Lowes or Home Depot. I wonder if you
need any sort of underneath seal if you are working with redwood a
foot off the ground.

Jim

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I tried Behr (from home depot) on a piece of outdoor furniture. It peeled
in 6 weeks. OTOH, I used Menards best concrete and deck paint on very
soggy, treated wood on the fence behind, the wood front and the frame for
the winter leanto and it has NOT peeled in 5 years or so. Ingrid


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We used Behr deck paint over (don't tell) treated lumber. Holds up
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peeling as of a decade.

Jim


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"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:

Yup! Termites should be thought about.

Our treated lumber is termite resistant and could technically stand in
water longer than I will live. However, we have cement footings.

More important, I think, is to protect against subterranean termites with
either concrete or stone footings.


Jim


Treated lumber is treated with arsenic. Very toxic to plants around it.
Can't imagine using it around fish, if the wood should "sweat".

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:31:19 CST, Nick Cramer
wrote:

"Phyllis and Jim" wrote:
We used Behr deck paint over (don't tell) treated lumber. Holds up
fine. We reapint the top surfaces. Bottom does not need it. No
peeling as of a decade.


More important, I think, is to protect against subterranean termites with
either concrete or stone footings.


The subterranean termite builds tunnels over concrete footings. They
are blind and folks still wonder how they knew to build tunnels up a
concrete elevator shaft to reach wood 20' above. Either the ground
around the base must be poisoned to the termite or the wood itself
must be treated. I use pressure treated because it is cheaper and the
poisons are know chemicals. Some people prefer cypress, redwood or
other trees with natural poisons that deter termites. Above the water
IMHO it isn't going to matter.

Check with a paint or wood treating specialist before painting
pressure treated wood. Some paints cause the wood to rot and voids
any pressure treating warranty.

Regards,

Hal.



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Up to 2003, that was the case. Arsenic was used and was verry
effective. Now a copper base is used instead. It too is toxic. Good
not to put it in a small pond. In a big pond, the timbers of the dock
will be pressure treated.

Pressure treated wood will weather and should be sealed in some
manner. The amount of leaching from structures around a pond is
probably very small.

Jim

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the levels that leach are very very low. I have tons of plants do
spectacularily well in raised beds with treated lumber. the treated wood is
painted where it is near the pond. it is not permanent structure in case it
does peel. Ingrid

Treated lumber is treated with arsenic. Very toxic to plants around it.
Can't imagine using it around fish, if the wood should "sweat


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