I missed the original post, but I have a few words if I might be
permitted. Just Liners dot com has several types of liners listed on
their site. I would suggest reading the different types of materials
these liners are made of and their characteristics. Notice UV
resistance on PVC. I would also like to point out the weight of the
different material types has a bearing on shipping cost and handling
after it is delivered to you and when you are placing it in the hole.
You might notice Permalon is the one that gives the weight in the
technical specifications. I also believe what they don't say, they
left off for a reason. Shipping is expensive.

http://www.justliners.com/Permalon.htm

I didn't buy liners from them, but I have an EPDM and a Permalon liner
pond and if I build another pond it will be a Permalon liner.

Regards,

Hal

I have both epdm aned permalon. mine are formal ponds with square
corners which needs big folds and permalon makes very flat folds. big
folds are death traps for fish as they move up the fold and then find
themselves wedged into the fold at the top. permalon is stiff enough
that I can pull a bit of the top fold out so the fold is open. OTOH,
a more natural random shaped pond without corners and epdm is great
for this. permalon is very stiff and doesnt make good little folds.
Ingrid

On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:10:34 CST, Hal wrote:
I didn't buy liners from them, but I have an EPDM and a Permalon liner
pond and if I build another pond it will be a Permalon liner.

Regards,

Hal

If the folds are an issue call the sales people at permalon.
reefindustries.com They can preform your folds for a perfect fit.
Dan
wrote in message
. com...
I have both epdm aned permalon. mine are formal ponds with square
corners which needs big folds and permalon makes very flat folds. big
folds are death traps for fish as they move up the fold and then find
themselves wedged into the fold at the top. permalon is stiff enough
that I can pull a bit of the top fold out so the fold is open. OTOH,
a more natural random shaped pond without corners and epdm is great
for this. permalon is very stiff and doesnt make good little folds.
Ingrid

On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:10:34 CST, Hal wrote:
I didn't buy liners from them, but I have an EPDM and a Permalon liner
pond and if I build another pond it will be a Permalon liner.

Regards,

Hal

not if you dont have specific measurements. this is fine for a
concrete hole or solid structure, but most dirt ponds are not
"regular". Ingrid

At 10:16 PM 5/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:
If the folds are an issue call the sales people at permalon.
reefindustries.com They can preform your folds for a perfect fit.
Dan

In article ,
"Dan Robinson" wrote:

If the folds are an issue call the sales people at permalon.
reefindustries.com They can preform your folds for a perfect fit.
Dan
wrote in message
. com...
I have both epdm aned permalon. mine are formal ponds with square
corners which needs big folds and permalon makes very flat folds. big
folds are death traps for fish as they move up the fold and then find
themselves wedged into the fold at the top. permalon is stiff enough
that I can pull a bit of the top fold out so the fold is open. OTOH,
a more natural random shaped pond without corners and epdm is great
for this. permalon is very stiff and doesnt make good little folds.
Ingrid

On Thu, 10 May 2007 10:10:34 CST, Hal wrote:
I didn't buy liners from them, but I have an EPDM and a Permalon liner
pond and if I build another pond it will be a Permalon liner.

Regards,

Hal


I vote for thicker material and deal with the folds. I used the 40 mil
material in my 800 gal. kidney-shaped pond, and as long as you are
folding as you fill the pond, you get a pretty good fit. Better to have
stones, or plants that cover the edge, and after a while, the algae will
dull the gloss of the liner.

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