"Reel McKoi" wrote:
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I mounted my netting 2' above the surface of the pond , which was up to 4'
deep. After netting, I had no more losses from GBH (San Fernando Valley).

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:
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I mounted my netting 2' above the surface of the pond , which was up to 4'
deep. After netting, I had no more losses from GBH (San Fernando Valley).
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Yes, that's what I did with my in-ground ponds but I can't do that above my
720g grow out tanks. I would have to raise the sides 2' with hardware cloth
or 4x2" X 4' fencing. That's a big job and not cheap. The nets are only
about 6" above the surface of the water. The GH reaches right through the
netting and grabs them, then kills them trying to force them through so he
can swallow them.
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I mounted my netting 2' above the surface of the pond . . . .
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. . . I can't do that above my 720g grow out tanks. . . .

The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...xtag-kitchen-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

My pond was 8' x 8' x 2' to 4'.

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The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...xtag-kitchen-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

and

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

That's what I use around the inground ponds. They wont work on the above
ground tanks.
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The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...xtag-kitchen-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

and

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

That's what I use around the inground ponds. They wont work on the above
ground tanks.

Don't know what above ground tanks look like other than squares, you
just add height to base.

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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...xtag-kitchen-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

and

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

That's what I use around the inground ponds. They wont work on the above
ground tanks.

Don't know what above ground tanks look like other than squares, you
just add height to base.
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I can add height to the top but as I said, that's time comsuming and would
be expensive. It would have to be wired to the mesh already around them
somehow, for good support above the water. These are large round child's
pools with regular pond liners in them. See below. That blue tub now has a
black liner also. I would have to add extensions to the tops of these tubs.
They're 8' across and hold roughly 720g of water each. The smaller pool is
only 120g. The fence is so high the herons can't get the fish. But these are
too small for koi.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngs/tanks2.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngs/tanks1.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/tank150g.jpg
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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Kurt" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...nextag-kitchen
-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

and

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

That's what I use around the inground ponds. They wont work on the above
ground tanks.

Don't know what above ground tanks look like other than squares, you
just add height to base.
=============================
I can add height to the top but as I said, that's time comsuming and would
be expensive. It would have to be wired to the mesh already around them
somehow, for good support above the water. These are large round child's
pools with regular pond liners in them. See below. That blue tub now has a
black liner also. I would have to add extensions to the tops of these tubs.
They're 8' across and hold roughly 720g of water each. The smaller pool is
only 120g. The fence is so high the herons can't get the fish. But these are
too small for koi.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngs/tanks2.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...ngs/tanks1.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/tank150g.jpg

PVC is so cheap. I'd just make a tent frame and throw over the top.
$10-&15 max

here's my handy-dandy solution for you:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...tanks-modified
..jpg

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I mounted my netting 2' above the surface of the pond . . . .
=======================
. . . I can't do that above my 720g grow out tanks. . . .

The ones I got were similar to these, but higher. I think I got them at
Home Depot.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KE4U8Y?...xtag-kitchen-m
p-20&linkCode=asn

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

My pond was 8' x 8' x 2' to 4'.

I was thinking that another cheap way to make a cage for the netting
would be to construct it out of pvc pipe.
You get the gray (electrical) PVC and a bunch of elbows, and you can one
that also dismantles easily.
I'm going to try this for mine and will post pix.

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Kurt wrote:
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I was thinking that another cheap way to make a cage for the netting
would be to construct it out of pvc pipe.

I have a friend who builds almost anything out of PVC pipe. Ingenuity is
the key!

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are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not
forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

My pond was 8' x 8' x 2' to 4'.

I was thinking that another cheap way to make a cage for the netting
would be to construct it out of pvc pipe.
You get the gray (electrical) PVC and a bunch of elbows, and you can one
that also dismantles easily.
I'm going to try this for mine and will post pix.

Since GBH don't seem to be able to step over things, seems a run of heavy
duty fish line at knee height a foot from the pond would discourage it,
along with the netting, couldn't walk in close enough, and wouldn't fly
right down beside it. I could be wrong..... But it is cheap, and gardening
stakes would be all that is needed to assemble. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"~ jan" wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/2fx52l (same)

My pond was 8' x 8' x 2' to 4'.

I was thinking that another cheap way to make a cage for the netting
would be to construct it out of pvc pipe.
You get the gray (electrical) PVC and a bunch of elbows, and you can one
that also dismantles easily.
I'm going to try this for mine and will post pix.

Since GBH don't seem to be able to step over things, seems a run of heavy
duty fish line at knee height a foot from the pond would discourage it,
along with the netting, couldn't walk in close enough, and wouldn't fly
right down beside it. I could be wrong..... But it is cheap, and gardening
stakes would be all that is needed to assemble. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us



That is basically what I did. I had bird netting over my pond, but damn, it
is just ugly. I took copper wire and strung it around the perimeter of my
pond and various angles and elevations. So far so good. The copper patinas
and almost disappears. The only question I had, and I still don't have an
answer, is will a heron land directly into the water, or do they always walk
in from shore.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Koi, Goldfish, and RES named Colombo.

"San Diego Joe" wrote in message
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That is basically what I did. I had bird netting over my pond, but damn,
it
is just ugly. I took copper wire and strung it around the perimeter of my
pond and various angles and elevations. So far so good. The copper patinas
and almost disappears. The only question I had, and I still don't have an
answer, is will a heron land directly into the water, or do they always
walk
in from shore.
============================================
Yes if they can see a pot or rock. The GBHs here will actually land, rather
clumsily, on the edge of the tubs and fish from there. They will step over
any wire they can see. It doesn't discourage them. It could trip up myself
and my husband. I just broke an ankle this past July tripping over a small
rock I didn't see due to a hosta leaf. Also, wire does nothing to stop
Kingfishers, small herons, snakes and bullfrogs.
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Kurt wrote ~~The only question I had, and I still don't have an
answer, is will a heron land directly into the water, or do they
always walk
in from shore.~~

Yes, a heron can land in the water. Someone once reporting
one floating around like a prehistoric duck. A hungry bird will
try all sorts of things.
The trick is making it too difficult. A bird on the ground is
in danger from predation, so the harder you make it to get
to the pond the more potential threat there is to spending more
time on the ground. That said some birds are very determined.
It's really luck and circumstance.

k :-)

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I mounted my netting 2' above the surface of the pond , which was up to 4'
deep. After netting, I had no more losses from GBH (San Fernando Valley).

This is what my budddy in Sedona does.

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