On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:14:23 CST, "2pods" wrote:

Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve.
(five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call
service :-) )

Yesterday I canniblised bits from a hefty waterfall pump and got the filter
running again.
This will see me through until 3rd January when the place I buy pumps from
reopens I thought.

Wrong !
This morning about two thirds of the water has gone.
The pump was still running, so I think I have stupidly ripped the liner when
replacing the pump.

So it will prolly be a new pump, new liner, and frostbite for my new year.

Is this a fountain where the wind could have blown the water out? ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

"~ jan" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:14:23 CST, "2pods" wrote:

Our tiny patio pond's filter pump died on Christmas Eve.
(five year old Hozelock Cyprio Titan 2000 on 24/7. That's what I call

So it will prolly be a new pump, new liner, and frostbite for my new year.

Is this a fountain where the wind could have blown the water out? ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

No, it was a pressurised filter return (pond is about 8' x 4'), but it
seems its either the black ribbed hose cracked, or the filter itself, so
I've taken the pump out, refilled and added dechlor.
Fish seem happy so far touches wood/

Hopefully this will see them OK until the January pump appears.

peter

Since that new rubbermade tub cracked, yet another year I'll have to try to
come up with a decent filter system. The pond is overstocked, so I'll have
to sell of some of the larger fish to the local pet shop again.

I'll, really getting quite tired of having to rebuild a filter every single
year, and living in the boondocks makes it hard to find hardware to cobble
one up at a reasonable price. I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if
I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can
put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from
opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week or
so.

Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond is
becomming more work then it's worth.


--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

"Gareee©" wrote in message
news I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if
I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can
put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from
opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week
or so.

This is what I'm seriously considering. I'm sick to death of cleaning the
Tetra barrel type filters 5 or 6 times a month. It's a nasty smelly job. I
may just turn the settling tank into a filter since is has a drain and can
be hosed out. Only problem is the filter pads would still need to be hosed
off. I would also need a second settling-tank-turned-filter for the smaller
800g pond. Also, every spring now we have to drain the ponds to remove all
the fry and sludge from the bottom. It takes an entire weekend. And now the
area is so flooded with pond quality koi you can't even give them away.

Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond
is becomming more work then it's worth.

That's how we're starting to feel and now we have the GBH problem. In our
early 60s, it's getting to be a lot of unwelcome work. A chore instead of a
pleasure.
--

RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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"Gareee©" wrote:

Since that new rubbermade tub cracked, yet another year I'll have to try to
come up with a decent filter system. The pond is overstocked, so I'll have
to sell of some of the larger fish to the local pet shop again.

I'll, really getting quite tired of having to rebuild a filter every single
year, and living in the boondocks makes it hard to find hardware to cobble
one up at a reasonable price. I'll try the farmer's supply store, and see if
I can find something with a cover, but i also think I want something I can
put a drain in teh bottom of, with a line so I can just hose it off from
opening the lid, rather then taking the mess apart to clean it every week or
so.

Since the water visibility has been so bad the last year or so, the pond is
becomming more work then it's worth.

How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner?
This is how I'm doing my next filter.

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"Kurt" wrote in message

How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner?
This is how I'm doing my next filter.

How do you have it planned?

I suppose you could use the outflow as a small waterfall, and maybe cover it
with a big piece of plywood?

I don't mind doing the work, if it saves work down the road, but for the
last 3 years it seems I'm building endless filters that either aren't big
enough, or fail after a month or so.

--
Gareee
(Gary Tabar Jr.)

well... now posts are being deleted right away. 4/5 were the big red X and I couldnt
download the bodies. Ingrid

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:06:31 CST, Kurt
wrote:

How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner?
This is how I'm doing my next filter.

Sounds interesting! I have an above ground retaining wall stone with
liner I plan to use for plant filter, or veggie-filter, but I don't
have as good an experience as others with plants for filtering. The
bottom of such tanks always collect mulm. What filtering
devices/media do you plan to use in such a tank?
--
Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8
http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb

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Hal wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:06:31 CST, Kurt
wrote:

How about making a raised earthen container and just using pond liner?
This is how I'm doing my next filter.

Sounds interesting! I have an above ground retaining wall stone with
liner I plan to use for plant filter, or veggie-filter, but I don't
have as good an experience as others with plants for filtering. The
bottom of such tanks always collect mulm. What filtering
devices/media do you plan to use in such a tank?

I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of
Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't
covered - just looked like a small pond.

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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 20:34:30 CST, Kurt
wrote:

I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of
Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't
covered - just looked like a small pond.

Sounds good! I hope you have the results you want. I like plants and
keep trying to have a plant pond with clear water and no debris on the
bottom, but so far it is a plan that includes a shop vac once in a
while. Some people get by with once a year cleaning, I'm still
looking for that.
--
Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8
http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb

Kurt wrote:

I was thinking about it being one big veggie filter with lots of
Hyacinth, etc. Water enters and leaves on top. My last one wasn't
covered - just looked like a small pond.

I have seen several plans for a veggie filter that have the dirty water
enter from the bottom through a distributed piping system and usually
through a gravel bed and then exit the top. Is this overkill or even
better filtering?

Chip