blood streaks are most likely stress or water quality.
cloudiness on eye is BAD slime coat. just wait. it will resolve. Ingrid


On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:47:15 EDT, Pond Addict wrote:
Are the blood streaks I'm noticing in the fins and tail most likely
caused by septicemia or some other bacterial infection?

There's
like a growth, almost like a bump of skin, on the outside of it in the
center. Slime coat is good, and has been from the beginning.

I've posted new images taken 12 hours after the second Tricide-Neo
dip:

http://homepage.mac.com/pondstuff/PhotoAlbum1.html
See the 4/24/08 pictures.

The improvement is noticeable.

Do I only do one more Tricide-Neo dip? The instructions say I can keep
doing it every day or every other day for a week.

Thanks,

Dave

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:05 EDT, Pond Addict
wrote:

I've posted new images taken 12 hours after the second Tricide-Neo
dip:

http://homepage.mac.com/pondstuff/PhotoAlbum1.html
See the 4/24/08 pictures.

The improvement is noticeable.

Do I only do one more Tricide-Neo dip? The instructions say I can keep
doing it every day or every other day for a week.

Thanks,

Dave

Kind of up to you, but I only did it the 3 times. Also depends on how clean
the Tricide-Neo stays. About the 3rd time it gets pretty smelly due to all
the slime coat sloughing off. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

are those missing scales on the "good side"? if the tricide-neo is antibiotic, keep
doing the dips. I would also recommend triple antibiotic CREME from the drug store.
rub that on all areas wounds and places without scales. Ingrid

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:05 EDT, Pond Addict wrote:

I've posted new images taken 12 hours after the second Tricide-Neo
dip:

http://homepage.mac.com/pondstuff/PhotoAlbum1.html
See the 4/24/08 pictures.

The improvement is noticeable.

Do I only do one more Tricide-Neo dip? The instructions say I can keep
doing it every day or every other day for a week.

Thanks,

Dave

On Apr 25, 10:26 am, wrote:
are those missing scales on the "good side"?

There are some missing on both sides. The left side ("driver's side")
of the fish is what I'm calling the good side.

I had major problems keeping ammonia and nitrites under control
yesterday in the 10 gal tank. It seems to work for about a day or two
and then even with water changes it's hard to keep on top of that for
a fish that large (it's over a foot long nose to tail). So, I ended up
getting a more hospitable hospital tank. It's a 46 gallon tank that
I've set up with an oversized filter & circulation and lots of air.
The tank was finally acclimated early this morning so I moved the fish
over there.

I did not dip last night because of the chaos of setting up this tank
and preparing a filter-caught fish for the smaller tank. As I
mentioned in another post, I found this fish in my bottom drain filter
basket with another fish that looked like it had been ripped apart.
I'm not sure if that happened on the trip to the basket or earlier,
but I've never seen a fish torn up like that just by being in the
filter basket. In any case, one survived, and one didn't. After
letting the fin damaged fish relax over night in an aerated bucket
with some salt and slime coat additive, I did a salt dip on that fish
and put it in the 10 gallon tank (newly set up). It's a much better
fit for that tank and seems comfortable.

Busy times.

Dave

The left side ("driver's side") of the fish is what I'm calling the good side.

To be clear, that's the "U.S. driver's side." : )

Dave

I just did the 3rd T-N dip, and I noticed when I returned the fish to
the tank that its bad eye is now completely filled with blood. It's as
if the black was replaced by a big purple ball. I didn't notice any
problems during the dip.

Stress induced? Will it clear?

Thanks,

Dave

if you are in the US you gotta call Jo Ann 251-649-4790. I have never seen this.
Ingrid

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:57:21 EDT, Pond Addict wrote:

I just did the 3rd T-N dip, and I noticed when I returned the fish to
the tank that its bad eye is now completely filled with blood. It's as
if the black was replaced by a big purple ball. I didn't notice any
problems during the dip.

Stress induced? Will it clear?

Thanks,

Dave

More info on that eye. It sticks way out compared to the other one.
I'd kind of noticed that with the "bad spot" I was seeing, but now
looking at the fish head on it's very clear that one eye sticks way
out compare to the other. I'd say an 1/8" more at least. I'll get an
image posted later.

I also just noticed that the top fin has a small (1/8" ?) tear about
1" back from where the fin starts. It's on the outer edge of the fin,
so the outer edge of the fin is not connected at that point. I'm
concerned that it might tear more. Is there anything to do about that?
Some way to bind it back together or something?

Thanks,

Dave

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:57:31 EDT, Pond Addict
wrote:

More info on that eye. It sticks way out compared to the other one.
I'd kind of noticed that with the "bad spot" I was seeing, but now
looking at the fish head on it's very clear that one eye sticks way
out compare to the other. I'd say an 1/8" more at least. I'll get an
image posted later.

I also just noticed that the top fin has a small (1/8" ?) tear about
1" back from where the fin starts. It's on the outer edge of the fin,
so the outer edge of the fin is not connected at that point. I'm
concerned that it might tear more. Is there anything to do about that?
Some way to bind it back together or something?

Thanks,

Dave

Let me know when picture is up regarding the eye. As far as the fins, I
wouldn't worry about it. I think it is time for the fish to heal-thy-self.
You've done all that can be done, imo. I think the fish needs to rest.

Ingrid mentioned putting cream on the missing scales areas, but I don't
think that is necessary with the tricide-neo dips. Also, one of the
mistakes people make is cleaning a wound more than once. Ideally clean it
good the first time, treat and leave it alone, as continued cleaning or
doctoring can remove the tender scab cells of healing. ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

the torn fin is due to bad water conditions. it will heal in clean water. Ingrid

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:57:31 EDT, Pond Addict wrote:

I also just noticed that the top fin has a small (1/8" ?) tear about
1" back from where the fin starts. It's on the outer edge of the fin,
so the outer edge of the fin is not connected at that point. I'm
concerned that it might tear more. Is there anything to do about that?
Some way to bind it back together or something?

Thanks,

Dave