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Old 19-03-2006, 04:00 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold up
here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.


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Old 19-03-2006, 04:43 PM posted to rec.ponds
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"AngieNews2" wrote in message
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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.

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The unwritten rule where I live is to turn on the filters and waterfalls,
whatever you have, when the water reaches 50F or more. You don't want to
mix the warmer bottom water with the cold top water.
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Old 19-03-2006, 05:18 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Thanks Koi-Lo,
I was wondering about the mixing of temps too.
Angie


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"AngieNews2" wrote in message
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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which
worked great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.

==========================
The unwritten rule where I live is to turn on the filters and waterfalls,
whatever you have, when the water reaches 50F or more. You don't want to
mix the warmer bottom water with the cold top water.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o






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Old 19-03-2006, 05:58 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Angie,

I used to have a bio falls filter on a similar sized pond. (I've since
upgraded to a pond that's about 3,000 gallons and am using a larger bio
falls filter on it.) I left my filter/falls off one year but ran it after
that. What I did do was replace the 1600 gph Oase pump that I used during
Spring/Summer/Fall with a smaller one and I raised the pump a greater
distance off the pond bottom than normal. This kept water running through
the filter, which I believe is better for the bacteria and I wasn't super
chilling the water on the bottom. Then, in early spring, I'd take out the
bags of lava rock, bio balls and filter pads, give everything a good
cleaning and hook back up the larger pump.

So, to your question: I guess you could start your filter/falls back up
without any problem but you're still going to have to do your annual
cleaning to get it back to working.

John

"AngieNews2" wrote in message
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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.



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Old 19-03-2006, 06:32 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Thanks John,
I appreciate your advice
Angie
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Angie,

I used to have a bio falls filter on a similar sized pond. (I've since
upgraded to a pond that's about 3,000 gallons and am using a larger bio
falls filter on it.) I left my filter/falls off one year but ran it after
that. What I did do was replace the 1600 gph Oase pump that I used during
Spring/Summer/Fall with a smaller one and I raised the pump a greater
distance off the pond bottom than normal. This kept water running through
the filter, which I believe is better for the bacteria and I wasn't super
chilling the water on the bottom. Then, in early spring, I'd take out the
bags of lava rock, bio balls and filter pads, give everything a good
cleaning and hook back up the larger pump.

So, to your question: I guess you could start your filter/falls back up
without any problem but you're still going to have to do your annual
cleaning to get it back to working.

John

"AngieNews2" wrote in message
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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which
worked great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.







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Old 20-03-2006, 01:54 AM posted to rec.ponds
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AngieNews2 wrote:

Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)


Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan, requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job, that
was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.
--
derek
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Old 20-03-2006, 07:54 AM posted to rec.ponds
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In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:

Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan, requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job, that
was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.


In related good news, summer is slated for the second tuesday in august this year.


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Old 20-03-2006, 11:55 AM posted to rec.ponds
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Yikes!
Well, London/Sarnia is considered part of the "snow belt" of SW Ontario
Luckily, I live in the "Banana Belt" of Ontario! lol
I don't remember ever having blizzards in April down here....knock on wood!
Thanks for the note!

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AngieNews2 wrote:

Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which
worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)


Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan, requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job,
that
was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.
--
derek



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Old 20-03-2006, 11:56 AM posted to rec.ponds
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ROFL!

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In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:

Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan, requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job,
that
was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.


In related good news, summer is slated for the second tuesday in august
this year.


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Old 20-03-2006, 01:25 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Richard Sexton wrote:

In article ,
Derek Broughton wrote:

Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan, requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job,
that was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always
just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.


In related good news, summer is slated for the second tuesday in august
this year.


LOL. I'll hold you to that!
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Old 20-03-2006, 01:31 PM posted to rec.ponds
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We have had some late, heavy snow storms in the "banana belt", but the snow
was gone in a few days and can't really remember if any of them happened as
late as April or not - the traditional weather paterns in this area are
getting warmer all the time - not that I have a problem with that - I'm
disliking the cold more all the time
Gale :~)
Yikes!
Well, London/Sarnia is considered part of the "snow belt" of SW Ontario
Luckily, I live in the "Banana Belt" of Ontario! lol
I don't remember ever having blizzards in April down here....knock on
wood!
Thanks for the note!

"Derek Broughton" wrote in message
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AngieNews2 wrote:

Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which
worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)


Light snow in April? In April 1996 I started a job in Michigan,
requiring
me to commute from London through Sarnia. I spent that whole first month
driving through blizzards. Now, in the three years I was on that job,
that
was really the worst driving I had, but it's definitely not always just
"light" snow. Still, I'd start the pumps.
--
derek





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900 gallon is pretty small. I would run the pump but not over the water falls until
the water temp was going to stay above 55oF. the reason is fish immune system shuts
down below 50-55 and sudden drops in temp can stress fish, brink out ich.
if you have a flow adjuster on the pump you could cut it back so it wouldnt put a big
flow over the waterfall ... keep an eye on water temp. Ingrid

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Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold up
here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.




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Thanks Ingrid

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900 gallon is pretty small. I would run the pump but not over the water
falls until
the water temp was going to stay above 55oF. the reason is fish immune
system shuts
down below 50-55 and sudden drops in temp can stress fish, brink out ich.
if you have a flow adjuster on the pump you could cut it back so it
wouldnt put a big
flow over the waterfall ... keep an eye on water temp. Ingrid

"AngieNews2" wrote:

Hi
I put in a new 900 gal. pond last fall with a Biofalls filter/waterfall.
We shut it down for the winter and used a Thermopond de-icer, which worked
great! I have Shubunkins/snails/frogs.

Should I start up my biofalls now? The pond is ice free, but still cold
up
here in SW Ontario Canada (35-40F deg. days).
(We have seen light snow in April before.)
Thanks in advance.




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