Hi,

Im thinking of building a pond. I am going to build a brick wall in a
sort of shape like this looking down from above (well not quite that
shape but u get the idea.).

|------------|
| |
\ |
\ |
\---------
The wall we be about 3 feet high from the ground and then I will put
decking around at I expect about 12 inches from the ground. So I will
see 2ft of the wall above the decking. Then fill inside the walled
hole with 1ft of soil, then lay a rigid pond on top of the soil and
back fill it all in. Then stick some plants (ones that dont drop
their leaves) in the soil that is around the edge of the pond.

I will put some goldfish in the pond so will put in a filter/pump etc.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

Will a wall one brick thick be enough support for all the soil and the
pond.

Ive heard of retaining walls - ones that sort of click together - like
lego:-) Would this be stronger?

Im still reading up on depths of footings etc as the idea is at its
very early stages.

Im a bit concerned about the soil I put under and around the pond
shell. It will have to be new soil delivered to me and as such may be
quite 'light'. So Id need to compact it down. What I dont want is to
compalt it as much as I can and then find within a few months the
weight of the pond compacts it even more and the pond sinks?

Any tips for how to avoid this, eg type of soil or how to squash it
down?

Also any gotcha's I need to think about.

Im a novice at brick wall and pond building although not too bad at
indoor DIY jobs. The house is all complete now though so I need a new
challenge.

TIA,
Scott

scott wrote:
Hi,

Im thinking of building a pond. I am going to build a brick wall in a
sort of shape like this looking down from above (well not quite that
shape but u get the idea.).

|------------|
| |
\ |
\ |
\---------
The wall we be about 3 feet high from the ground and then I will put
decking around at I expect about 12 inches from the ground. So I will
see 2ft of the wall above the decking. Then fill inside the walled
hole with 1ft of soil, then lay a rigid pond on top of the soil and
back fill it all in. Then stick some plants (ones that dont drop
their leaves) in the soil that is around the edge of the pond.

I will put some goldfish in the pond so will put in a filter/pump etc.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

Will a wall one brick thick be enough support for all the soil and the
pond.

Ive heard of retaining walls - ones that sort of click together - like
lego:-) Would this be stronger?

Im still reading up on depths of footings etc as the idea is at its
very early stages.

Im a bit concerned about the soil I put under and around the pond
shell. It will have to be new soil delivered to me and as such may be
quite 'light'. So Id need to compact it down. What I dont want is to
compalt it as much as I can and then find within a few months the
weight of the pond compacts it even more and the pond sinks?

Any tips for how to avoid this, eg type of soil or how to squash it
down?

Also any gotcha's I need to think about.

Im a novice at brick wall and pond building although not too bad at
indoor DIY jobs. The house is all complete now though so I need a new
challenge.

TIA,
Scott

Please post at rec.ponds.moderated

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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 09:42:07 -0400, ©anadian Ponder " " wrote:

scott wrote:
Hi,

Im thinking of building a pond. I am going to build a brick wall in a
sort of shape like this looking down from above (well not quite that
shape but u get the idea.).

|------------|
| |
\ |
\ |
\---------
The wall we be about 3 feet high from the ground and then I will put
decking around at I expect about 12 inches from the ground. So I will
see 2ft of the wall above the decking. Then fill inside the walled
hole with 1ft of soil, then lay a rigid pond on top of the soil and
back fill it all in. Then stick some plants (ones that dont drop
their leaves) in the soil that is around the edge of the pond.

I will put some goldfish in the pond so will put in a filter/pump etc.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

Will a wall one brick thick be enough support for all the soil and the
pond.

Ive heard of retaining walls - ones that sort of click together - like
lego:-) Would this be stronger?

Im still reading up on depths of footings etc as the idea is at its
very early stages.

Im a bit concerned about the soil I put under and around the pond
shell. It will have to be new soil delivered to me and as such may be
quite 'light'. So Id need to compact it down. What I dont want is to
compalt it as much as I can and then find within a few months the
weight of the pond compacts it even more and the pond sinks?

Any tips for how to avoid this, eg type of soil or how to squash it
down?

Also any gotcha's I need to think about.

Im a novice at brick wall and pond building although not too bad at
indoor DIY jobs. The house is all complete now though so I need a new
challenge.

TIA,
Scott

Please post at rec.ponds.moderated



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

it would be better if you can subscribe to rec.ponds.moderated
however, concrete block with mortar can be used to build above ground ponds, but it
is easier and simpler to construct stud walls with pressure treated wood and treated
plywood. http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/2000/p2000.htm
the wood can be faced with brick if you like. here are more pictures of how it looks
at various times. http://weloveteaching.com/mypond/mypond.htm
I would highly recommend the veggie filter.

a single brick wall will not hold up to the weight of the water above ground. do not
dig any deeper than needed as the plastic liner will sink under the weight of the
water and could pull the liner away from the wall. the bottom of the pond needs to
be original dirt. a stud wall pond doesnt require footings. only the inside is clad
with plywood, the outside studs are back filled and packed with dirt. above ground I
insulated the studs and put wood planks.

be careful packing on the outside so it doesnt bow the ply on the inside. Ingrid



"scott" wrote:
Im thinking of building a pond. I am going to build a brick wall in a
sort of shape like this looking down from above (well not quite that
shape but u get the idea.).

|------------|
| |
\ |
\ |
\---------
The wall we be about 3 feet high from the ground and then I will put
decking around at I expect about 12 inches from the ground. So I will
see 2ft of the wall above the decking. Then fill inside the walled
hole with 1ft of soil, then lay a rigid pond on top of the soil and
back fill it all in. Then stick some plants (ones that dont drop
their leaves) in the soil that is around the edge of the pond.

I will put some goldfish in the pond so will put in a filter/pump etc.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

Will a wall one brick thick be enough support for all the soil and the
pond.

Ive heard of retaining walls - ones that sort of click together - like
lego:-) Would this be stronger?

Im still reading up on depths of footings etc as the idea is at its
very early stages.

Im a bit concerned about the soil I put under and around the pond
shell. It will have to be new soil delivered to me and as such may be
quite 'light'. So Id need to compact it down. What I dont want is to
compalt it as much as I can and then find within a few months the
weight of the pond compacts it even more and the pond sinks?

Any tips for how to avoid this, eg type of soil or how to squash it
down?

Also any gotcha's I need to think about.

Im a novice at brick wall and pond building although not too bad at
indoor DIY jobs. The house is all complete now though so I need a new
challenge.

TIA,
Scott



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For professional real time info on the ins ans outs of building a
pond as yur description check ouyt the numerous online posts in the
Koiphen.com or ther koishack.com online webforums complete with
pictures and immediate answers instead of having to hope somone by
chance happens buy and decides to reply as inthis and the moderated
gorup/ he moderated gorup is more or less a eliete bunch of folks who
just can not get along with each other and their knowledge is pretty
darn liimited as to what they only have done, unlike the over 4000
,members at koiphen.com of close to 3000 members at
koishack.com.......the usenet gorups are a mere wanna be function of
a fish and pond group and at most any answers by most would simply be
an uneducated guess. NOw if you hav time and effort and money to waste
on an uneducated guess, or merely want to know how to plant or
fertilize a water lilly, then the rec.ponds groups are fine, however
if you want to do it right the first time around, the two web based
forums are where the answers and folks in the know are at.



On 3 Apr 2007 06:03:57 -0700, "scott"
wrote:

Hi,

Im thinking of building a pond. I am going to build a brick wall in a
sort of shape like this looking down from above (well not quite that
shape but u get the idea.).

|------------|
| |
\ |
\ |
\---------
The wall we be about 3 feet high from the ground and then I will put
decking around at I expect about 12 inches from the ground. So I will
see 2ft of the wall above the decking. Then fill inside the walled
hole with 1ft of soil, then lay a rigid pond on top of the soil and
back fill it all in. Then stick some plants (ones that dont drop
their leaves) in the soil that is around the edge of the pond.

I will put some goldfish in the pond so will put in a filter/pump etc.

Does this sound reasonable to you?

Will a wall one brick thick be enough support for all the soil and the
pond.

Ive heard of retaining walls - ones that sort of click together - like
lego:-) Would this be stronger?

Im still reading up on depths of footings etc as the idea is at its
very early stages.

Im a bit concerned about the soil I put under and around the pond
shell. It will have to be new soil delivered to me and as such may be
quite 'light'. So Id need to compact it down. What I dont want is to
compalt it as much as I can and then find within a few months the
weight of the pond compacts it even more and the pond sinks?

Any tips for how to avoid this, eg type of soil or how to squash it
down?

Also any gotcha's I need to think about.

Im a novice at brick wall and pond building although not too bad at
indoor DIY jobs. The house is all complete now though so I need a new
challenge.

TIA,
Scott



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

~Windsong~ wrote:
Says who, yet another dumbass looking to cause the demise of
rec.ponds?


I guess you didn't last long in RPM. Got kicked out already. Didn't
even last 1 month.

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**** yo in the ass canuck.I choose on my own to leave that modertaed
forum due to its prejudiced asshoels they callmoderators and the
idiots like you that are there.......Go ****your self
dumbass.......last I knew you were one big cry baby when you got
slapped down a few months back,.care to try it again on thes egroups
dumbass........\

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:47:17 -0400, ©anadian Ponder " " wrote:

~Windsong~ wrote:
Says who, yet another dumbass looking to cause the demise of
rec.ponds?


I guess you didn't last long in RPM. Got kicked out already. Didn't
even last 1 month.



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

~Windsong~ wrote:
**** yo in the ass canuck.I choose on my own to leave that modertaed
forum due to its prejudiced asshoels they callmoderators and the
idiots like you that are there.......Go ****your self
dumbass.......last I knew you were one big cry baby when you got
slapped down a few months back,.care to try it again on thes egroups
dumbass........\


I don't know what the **** you are talking about .....but I blame it on
your medication ...SORRY !!!

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