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Old 02-06-2003, 05:20 PM
claude rogers
 
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When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude


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Old 02-06-2003, 05:44 PM
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"claude rogers" wrote:

When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude



If you turn off all the other water in your home and then time how long
it takes to fill a known volume in a trash can, it is very consistent.

Withstanding that, you dont need to be to precise.

jay
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:56 PM
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I guesstimate on the low side. and I put it in while the
water is just filling.
No need to wait and take a chance on forgetting ;-)

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"claude rogers" wrote in message
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When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and

do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude





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Old 02-06-2003, 07:20 PM
Paul Irwin
 
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You can make an estimate of the volume that you are replacing, the
conversion is 231 cubic inches per gallon. If I am replacing less than 10
percent or so I generally don't add any dechlorinators.

"claude rogers" wrote in message
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When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and

do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude




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Old 02-06-2003, 08:08 PM
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"claude rogers" writes:

When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude


You can calculate it by knowing your surface area and how many inches
of water you will be adding.

pond width in feet x pond length in feet x inches water added / 12 = cubic feet added

cubic feet water x 8 = gallons

/ 12 to convert inches water added to feet
x 8 because 8 gallons of water per cubic foot

Personally I wouldn't bother if the percentage changed is small,
say 5% but you should probably measure the chlorine to be sure.

HTH



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Old 02-06-2003, 09:13 PM
Sean Dinh
 
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Hook up a carbon filter to the hose and forget about adding chemical to the
pond.

claude rogers wrote:

When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude


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Old 02-06-2003, 09:56 PM
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I didn't know that carbon neutralized the chlorine/chloramines,
Sean. Do you know something I don't.

Nedra
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Hook up a carbon filter to the hose and forget about adding chemical to

the
pond.

claude rogers wrote:

When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage

and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting

in.
Reason for asking is I always dump in some dechlor/chloramine stuff,
generally I just guestimate it, is this what everyone else does, oh, and

do
you put in it before of after you top off the pond....Claude





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Old 02-06-2003, 11:08 PM
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"claude rogers" wrote:

When you guys top off your ponds from evaporation, waterfall spillage and
"splashage" Water changes, etc.
How do you determine how much water by gallons I guess you are putting in.


SWAG. Silly wild ass guess.

Since we only have plain clorine around here, I only worry about when
doing large (20%+) changes.

It is a squirt from a bottle, the bigger the water change, the bigger
the squirt.
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Old 03-06-2003, 07:08 AM
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Carbon cartridge absorb most chemical, including chlorine and chloramines. I use
an icemaker filter kit for my small pond/aquarium.

Nedra wrote:

I didn't know that carbon neutralized the chlorine/chloramines,
Sean. Do you know something I don't.


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Old 03-06-2003, 03:44 PM
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Okay ... now I have to know how big your pond/aquarium is?
Just can't see how it would work with my 3,000 gallon pond
and my water dept. tossing in 3 ppm of chloramine each day.
I even used AmQuel in my indoor 35 gallon patio pond.

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Carbon cartridge absorb most chemical, including chlorine and chloramines.

I use
an icemaker filter kit for my small pond/aquarium.

Nedra wrote:

I didn't know that carbon neutralized the chlorine/chloramines,
Sean. Do you know something I don't.







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Old 03-06-2003, 04:56 PM
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"Nedra" wrote:

Okay ... now I have to know how big your pond/aquarium is?
Just can't see how it would work with my 3,000 gallon pond
and my water dept. tossing in 3 ppm of chloramine each day.
I even used AmQuel in my indoor 35 gallon patio pond.


Buy a whole house filter, they are not that expensive $100. You
need to change the cartridge twice a year, no matter what the usage,
to avoid bacteria growth. Put it on the line that feeds the hose to the
pond.

Each cartridge should be good for a labeled large number of gallons.
Be sure to get a carbon cartridge.


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Nedra
 
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John, I have heard that such filters do not eradicate Chloramines.
Surely someone on this list would have mentioned it if it does
indeed work!

Nedra
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"Nedra" wrote:

Okay ... now I have to know how big your pond/aquarium is?
Just can't see how it would work with my 3,000 gallon pond
and my water dept. tossing in 3 ppm of chloramine each day.
I even used AmQuel in my indoor 35 gallon patio pond.


Buy a whole house filter, they are not that expensive $100. You
need to change the cartridge twice a year, no matter what the usage,
to avoid bacteria growth. Put it on the line that feeds the hose to the
pond.

Each cartridge should be good for a labeled large number of gallons.
Be sure to get a carbon cartridge.





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Old 03-06-2003, 09:08 PM
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"Nedra" wrote:

John, I have heard that such filters do not eradicate Chloramines.
Surely someone on this list would have mentioned it if it does
indeed work!


Or read the label on the cartridge, and see what it does?

Another alternative, would be to get a small water meter
and measure how much water your actually putting in, so you
can meter in correct amount of treatment.

A third would be to fill a small drum with water, treat, and then fill
the pond from that water.


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Old 03-06-2003, 09:08 PM
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"Nedra" wrote:

John, I have heard that such filters do not eradicate Chloramines.
Surely someone on this list would have mentioned it if it does
indeed work!


A quick google found in the city of LA Cloramine FAQ (google cached
copy)

qWill the water filter I've been using to remove chlorine from my
qwater at home also remove chloramine?

aAny activated carbon water filter will remove chloramine just as
a it removes chlorine. However, consult your manufacturer for specific
ainformation.


So, it looks like the answer is yes, if you get the right cartridge,
that is one with activated carbon.

That is the point of my recommendation of a general purpose filter,
that you can get the cartridge that meets your needs. They have ones for
removing sediment, rust, and other water problems, as well as double and
triple units to solve multiple problems.


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Old 03-06-2003, 09:32 PM
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Thanks John ... and just yesterday I ordered ChlorAm-X .
The 5 lb box too -oh well. Meanwhile I'll look for the filter.

Nedra
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"John Hines" wrote in message
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"Nedra" wrote:

John, I have heard that such filters do not eradicate Chloramines.
Surely someone on this list would have mentioned it if it does
indeed work!


A quick google found in the city of LA Cloramine FAQ (google cached
copy)

qWill the water filter I've been using to remove chlorine from my
qwater at home also remove chloramine?

aAny activated carbon water filter will remove chloramine just as
a it removes chlorine. However, consult your manufacturer for specific
ainformation.


So, it looks like the answer is yes, if you get the right cartridge,
that is one with activated carbon.

That is the point of my recommendation of a general purpose filter,
that you can get the cartridge that meets your needs. They have ones for
removing sediment, rust, and other water problems, as well as double and
triple units to solve multiple problems.





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