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Old 08-07-2003, 06:09 PM
Bonnie Espenshade
 
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Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/


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BenignVanilla wrote:
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...

Ok, I am convinced. They should be potted. Now my next question...why


have a

lotus pond, with pots in it. Why not just have a punch of lotus pots and
keep the water in the pots? Maybe I am confused. Someone told me to use
large (like 30 gallon) pots, so I don't get the pond. Could I use smaller
pots submerged in the pond?

BV.


I've tried them in pots out of the pond and in my area the containers get
too warm and the plants have done poorly. I think digging them into the
ground would keep the water cooler. My pots are only in the 18-20"


diameter

range and obviously my lotuses are doing fine (in the pond on shelf). ~


jan

How deep are your pots? Since I have permission to do another pond just for
the lotus, I'd like to densely pack one and then use it as feeder for a
stream down the road. Could I use shallow, but wide potts and sit them in
the pond?

BV.




-- BV

were you ever able to find a source for rubbermaid stock tanks??? if
so you might chect with them again, the local farm stores also sell
ruber "dish pans" for feeding horses they cone in 24" and 36" diameters
they are only about 7-8 inches deep
'





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

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"John Rutz" wrote in message
...
snip
were you ever able to find a source for rubbermaid stock tanks??? if
so you might chect with them again, the local farm stores also sell
ruber "dish pans" for feeding horses they cone in 24" and 36" diameters
they are only about 7-8 inches deep

snip

I'll have to take a look. In the mean time, I know the SO has been planning
on throwing three old garbage cans. I could probably cut them down and make
some containment facilities for lotus.

BV.


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Old 08-07-2003, 06:11 PM
Bonnie Espenshade
 
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Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/


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Old 08-07-2003, 06:12 PM
John Rutz
 
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BenignVanilla wrote:
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...

Ok, I am convinced. They should be potted. Now my next question...why


have a

lotus pond, with pots in it. Why not just have a punch of lotus pots and
keep the water in the pots? Maybe I am confused. Someone told me to use
large (like 30 gallon) pots, so I don't get the pond. Could I use smaller
pots submerged in the pond?

BV.


I've tried them in pots out of the pond and in my area the containers get
too warm and the plants have done poorly. I think digging them into the
ground would keep the water cooler. My pots are only in the 18-20"


diameter

range and obviously my lotuses are doing fine (in the pond on shelf). ~


jan

How deep are your pots? Since I have permission to do another pond just for
the lotus, I'd like to densely pack one and then use it as feeder for a
stream down the road. Could I use shallow, but wide potts and sit them in
the pond?

BV.




-- BV

were you ever able to find a source for rubbermaid stock tanks??? if
so you might chect with them again, the local farm stores also sell
ruber "dish pans" for feeding horses they cone in 24" and 36" diameters
they are only about 7-8 inches deep
'





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

good judgement comes from bad experience, and that comes from bad
judgement

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com



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BenignVanilla
 
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"John Rutz" wrote in message
...
snip
were you ever able to find a source for rubbermaid stock tanks??? if
so you might chect with them again, the local farm stores also sell
ruber "dish pans" for feeding horses they cone in 24" and 36" diameters
they are only about 7-8 inches deep

snip

I'll have to take a look. In the mean time, I know the SO has been planning
on throwing three old garbage cans. I could probably cut them down and make
some containment facilities for lotus.

BV.


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Old 08-07-2003, 11:33 PM
Nedra
 
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Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/





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Old 08-07-2003, 11:35 PM
Nedra
 
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BV,

I wonder if the Greg Speichert lotus bog would work
in a bigger size without being too ungainly??
Back to your original idea about having a lotus pond
with the lotus just planted in the dirt?? Hmmm ...

Do you get the pond magazine "Water Gardening"?
The article on Lotus bogs is at the bottom of page 37 ..
July issue.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Nedra" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/








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Old 08-07-2003, 11:36 PM
Bonnie Espenshade
 
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Nedra wrote:
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Yes, I found the magazine in the mailbox today.
Now I must find a lotus and hopefully DH will
decide it would be a nice anniversary present,
next Tuesday we'll be married 38 years.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/


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Old 08-07-2003, 11:38 PM
Nedra
 
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Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/







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BV,

I wonder if the Greg Speichert lotus bog would work
in a bigger size without being too ungainly??
Back to your original idea about having a lotus pond
with the lotus just planted in the dirt?? Hmmm ...

Do you get the pond magazine "Water Gardening"?
The article on Lotus bogs is at the bottom of page 37 ..
July issue.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Nedra" wrote in message
thlink.net...
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
Nedra wrote:
Strange you should ask Bonnie. Water Gardening magazine
came yesterday and Greg Speichert has been pushing folks
to put in lotus bogs. Here's how that works. Dig a hole
about 3 feet in diameter. About 2 feet deep...
Line the hole with EPDM and place the pot of lotus
tuber in the pot. All you have to look out for is not freezing
the tuber. Most people put the lotuses in too deep... all that
is needed is 4 or 5 inches of water over the crown.
BTW, lotuses are hardy to zone 3 !
The article in this months Water Gardening is on Lotus in
general ... you'll have to look for the article on lotus bogs in
an earlier issue ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

I went on a cleaning binge :-(, where oh where did I put
the magazine. Thanks, I'll find it!


--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/








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Nedra wrote:
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Yes, I found the magazine in the mailbox today.
Now I must find a lotus and hopefully DH will
decide it would be a nice anniversary present,
next Tuesday we'll be married 38 years.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/


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I'm so excited for you!!! Happy Anniversary a couple of
days early....

Nedra
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"Bonnie Espenshade" wrote in message
...
Nedra wrote:
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say

anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Yes, I found the magazine in the mailbox today.
Now I must find a lotus and hopefully DH will
decide it would be a nice anniversary present,
next Tuesday we'll be married 38 years.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/





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Bonnie Espenshade wrote:
Nedra wrote:

Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118



Yes, I found the magazine in the mailbox today.
Now I must find a lotus and hopefully DH will
decide it would be a nice anniversary present,
next Tuesday we'll be married 38 years.



--

well noww Happy Anivrsary



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

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CONGRATULATIONS, BONNIE!! that's great!
mad

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:19:03 GMT
Subject: Ultimate Lotus Garden

Nedra wrote:
Bonnie, You probably found it already ... but, there is more
on the lotus bogs in the July issue.

Greg Speichert says to fill the lined hole with dirt.
Then plant the lotus tubers right into the dirt. He doesn't say anything
about pots! Sorry for misleading you ...

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Yes, I found the magazine in the mailbox today.
Now I must find a lotus and hopefully DH will
decide it would be a nice anniversary present,
next Tuesday we'll be married 38 years.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/





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