Howdy...

I have the 70gallon monster...

I plan to pretty much empty the pondlet, mess with the plants, vacuum
the sludge off of the bottom, not clean the sides, and refill using
tap water and declor and return the goldfish and plants. Then in a
couple of months i will sink the WH, and bring in the taro. I may
throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow . I'll put the fish in a covered bucket of pond
water.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:36:54 -0500, jammer wrote:

I may throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow .

You might want to wait till spring. Some iris don't do well after dividing,
but come next spring they'll come up like gang busters.... that's assuming
it was divided this year. ~ jan )

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

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Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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I wouldn't clean everything at once especially something as small as 70
gallons. You might shock the pondlet system and have to cycle the system
again. I would vacuum the crud out of the bottom and the water used will
work as a water change. Usually a 20% water change is sufficient. Then next
week clean something else.
"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:36:54 -0500, jammer wrote:

I may throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache
and
dont want to grow .

You might want to wait till spring. Some iris don't do well after
dividing,
but come next spring they'll come up like gang busters.... that's assuming
it was divided this year. ~ jan )

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Jammer,

It would be a good idea to get something like a couple of trash cans to put
the water that you are going to pump out, and save as much of the pond water
as possible. The fish can swim in that water while you do the cleaning.
Then put the pond water back into the pond. One the temperature won't
change much, as you would have with a complete water change, and the water
from the pond has already been through the cycle and has a lot of good
bacteria that will help get the pond through the cycle faster.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"jammer" wrote in message
...
Howdy...

I have the 70gallon monster...

I plan to pretty much empty the pondlet, mess with the plants, vacuum
the sludge off of the bottom, not clean the sides, and refill using
tap water and declor and return the goldfish and plants. Then in a
couple of months i will sink the WH, and bring in the taro. I may
throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow . I'll put the fish in a covered bucket of pond
water.

Well crud....I was just thinking since i had no pump/filter set-up
that all the water should go. But ok! I can to ask the masters and
they have spoken!





On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:23:31 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

Jammer,

It would be a good idea to get something like a couple of trash cans to put
the water that you are going to pump out, and save as much of the pond water
as possible. The fish can swim in that water while you do the cleaning.
Then put the pond water back into the pond. One the temperature won't
change much, as you would have with a complete water change, and the water
from the pond has already been through the cycle and has a lot of good
bacteria that will help get the pond through the cycle faster.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"jammer" wrote in message
.. .
Howdy...

I have the 70gallon monster...

I plan to pretty much empty the pondlet, mess with the plants, vacuum
the sludge off of the bottom, not clean the sides, and refill using
tap water and declor and return the goldfish and plants. Then in a
couple of months i will sink the WH, and bring in the taro. I may
throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow . I'll put the fish in a covered bucket of pond
water.

the water doesnt contain much of the biofilter. that is in the pond, on whatever
surfaces there are. dont scrub the inside of the pond. as long as you match the
water temp and pH you dont need to save the pond water. Ingrid

jammer wrote:

Well crud....I was just thinking since i had no pump/filter set-up
that all the water should go. But ok! I can to ask the masters and
they have spoken!





On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:23:31 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

Jammer,

It would be a good idea to get something like a couple of trash cans to put
the water that you are going to pump out, and save as much of the pond water
as possible. The fish can swim in that water while you do the cleaning.
Then put the pond water back into the pond. One the temperature won't
change much, as you would have with a complete water change, and the water
from the pond has already been through the cycle and has a lot of good
bacteria that will help get the pond through the cycle faster.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"jammer" wrote in message
. ..
Howdy...

I have the 70gallon monster...

I plan to pretty much empty the pondlet, mess with the plants, vacuum
the sludge off of the bottom, not clean the sides, and refill using
tap water and declor and return the goldfish and plants. Then in a
couple of months i will sink the WH, and bring in the taro. I may
throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow . I'll put the fish in a covered bucket of pond
water.




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I'll have to let the sun warm the water then i guess. Thanks so much.
I didn't actually get to it today because of unforeseen problems, but
i am off tomorrow.



On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 15:50:52 GMT, wrote:

the water doesnt contain much of the biofilter. that is in the pond, on whatever
surfaces there are. dont scrub the inside of the pond. as long as you match the
water temp and pH you dont need to save the pond water. Ingrid

jammer wrote:

Well crud....I was just thinking since i had no pump/filter set-up
that all the water should go. But ok! I can to ask the masters and
they have spoken!





On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:23:31 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

Jammer,

It would be a good idea to get something like a couple of trash cans to put
the water that you are going to pump out, and save as much of the pond water
as possible. The fish can swim in that water while you do the cleaning.
Then put the pond water back into the pond. One the temperature won't
change much, as you would have with a complete water change, and the water
from the pond has already been through the cycle and has a lot of good
bacteria that will help get the pond through the cycle faster.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"jammer" wrote in message
...
Howdy...

I have the 70gallon monster...

I plan to pretty much empty the pondlet, mess with the plants, vacuum
the sludge off of the bottom, not clean the sides, and refill using
tap water and declor and return the goldfish and plants. Then in a
couple of months i will sink the WH, and bring in the taro. I may
throw out the small iris'. They have been nothing but a headache and
dont want to grow . I'll put the fish in a covered bucket of pond
water.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.