Phyllis and I went to Germany for a couple of weeks (I am a family
therapist. We were working with military families. Many are hurting and
yet can't pursue family or couple help. It is OK to be divorced, but it
hurts your career to go for therapy. Sad.) I was remembering that koi came
to Japan as European/German carp and wondered what the ancesters looked
like. We saw some carp in Germany. They do look like the non-show koi,
more angular and less 'submarine-like'. The green/grey of European carp is
certainly improved on by the koi colors. It probably would not help them in
their native rivers, but the color makes them a lot more fun in the pond!

I appreciate, a lot, the effort needed to breed for color and design!

Jim

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"Phyllis and Jim Hurley" wrote in
message . ..
Phyllis and I went to Germany for a couple of weeks (I am a family
therapist. We were working with military families. Many are hurting and
yet can't pursue family or couple help. It is OK to be divorced, but it
hurts your career to go for therapy. Sad.) I was remembering that koi
came
to Japan as European/German carp and wondered what the ancesters looked
like. We saw some carp in Germany. They do look like the non-show koi,
more angular and less 'submarine-like'. The green/grey of European carp
is
certainly improved on by the koi colors. It probably would not help them
in
their native rivers, but the color makes them a lot more fun in the pond!

I appreciate, a lot, the effort needed to breed for color and design!

Jim
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The problem with those German koi is that they have no idea what you are
saying when you stand at your pond's egde, and say "Here fishy, fishy. Here
fishy, fishy."

BV.

LOL

Yeah, like those Japanese ones do, eh ? ;-)
As long as they don't run for governer in the US :-p (yeah yeah, I know,
he's from Austria)

As an aside, it's only some varieties ('doitsu' !) that came from Germany,
the original carp used to breed actually comes from Iraq/Iran ... go figure.

Look up the relation between "magoi" and Persia.

Theo

The problem with those German koi is that they have no idea what you are
saying when you stand at your pond's egde, and say "Here fishy, fishy.
Here
fishy, fishy."

BV.

Thanks for the information. I will take a look to become educated.

J

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"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
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LOL

Yeah, like those Japanese ones do, eh ? ;-)
As long as they don't run for governer in the US :-p (yeah yeah, I know,
he's from Austria)

As an aside, it's only some varieties ('doitsu' !) that came from Germany,
the original carp used to breed actually comes from Iraq/Iran ... go
figure.

Look up the relation between "magoi" and Persia.

Theo

The problem with those German koi is that they have no idea what you are
saying when you stand at your pond's egde, and say "Here fishy, fishy.
Here
fishy, fishy."

BV.

J., apologies if my post somehow seemed condescending or insulting. That
was not my intention at all.

Theo

"Phyllis and Jim Hurley" schreef in
bericht . ..
Thanks for the information. I will take a look to become educated.

J

Quoth "BenignVanilla" on Mon, 27
Oct 2003 16:11:28 -0500,

The problem with those German koi is that they have no idea what you are
saying when you stand at your pond's egde, and say "Here fishy, fishy. Here
fishy, fishy."

They'd learn right quick, though, if you came with food every day! ;-)

Seriously, I have always thought that I'd love to have an "ugly koi" in
my pond. Though I bet wild-caught fish would need a looong quarantine
and would have a nice assortment of local parasites.

I suppose I'll settle for a chagoi, someday.


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