"john rutz" wrote in message
...


BenignVanilla wrote:
"D Kat" wrote in message
...

I love Unix and have since 1970. Linux isn't there yet (NeXT was! and
was
10 years ahead of its time). DK

snip

Linux is not ready for prime time as a desktop OS. Clearly.

BV.

i beg to differ I have been using suse linux on my desktop

for three years and love it
I'm on someone elses puter now ewith winderz and hate it

I plan to switch OS's when someone delivers a way for me to harnes my entire
network. I have 6 or 7 machines always running, and if I could harness all 7
to compile video, or compile code, I'd switch tomorrow.

BV.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:40:53 -0500
"BenignVanilla" wrote:


I plan to switch OS's when someone delivers a way for me to harnes my
entire network. I have 6 or 7 machines always running, and if I could
harness all 7 to compile video, or compile code, I'd switch tomorrow.

BV.

Google for "Beowulf clusters." Linux will do that.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

that is exactly what i mean. a stupid marketing trick.
mad


From: "BenignVanilla"
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:39:21 -0500
Subject: OT Linux

They never let anyone build clones.
--
"We are all born mad. Some remain so."
Irish playwright Samuel Beckett



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"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:40:53 -0500
"BenignVanilla" wrote:


I plan to switch OS's when someone delivers a way for me to harnes my
entire network. I have 6 or 7 machines always running, and if I could
harness all 7 to compile video, or compile code, I'd switch tomorrow.

BV.

Google for "Beowulf clusters." Linux will do that.


This thread needs to end, there are plenty of linux groups that are better
suited to this discussion, for example comp.os.linux.advocacy, rec.ponds is
better suited for ponding.

Anyways to answer the question, a beowulf cluster probably isn't the best
solution. The bottleneck with code compilation is typically disk-io, not cpu
time. The original poster might have better luck just copying the code to a
ram disk, and compiling in ram, then copying the results back to disk. Of
course this assumes the original poster is writing code that can be compiled
anywhere, and not writing Win32/MFC/.NET specific products.

If disk-io is the bottleneck, distributed compilation of code on a network
filesystem, such as NFS, or CIFS via either rsh/ssh or a beowulf cluster, is
just goign to make things worse.

As for for the rendering of video, to my knowledge, beowulf is again not the
best solution for that either, several products, such as Muster by Virtual
Vertex, distribute the rendering for Maya, Lighwave and XSI. Of course none
of these products are cheap.

Sameer

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:24:46 GMT
"Snooze" wrote:

This thread needs to end, there are plenty of linux groups that are
better suited to this discussion, for example comp.os.linux.advocacy,
rec.ponds is better suited for ponding.

Reply To: header re-changed back to rec.ponds instead of cola

You are right about there being more informed forums for these kinds of
discussions and it's a good thing to point us to them. Thank you.
That said, for a lot of us ponders, colder weather has arrived and our
thoughts turn to other things. It's only natural that we discuss these
things with our ponding friends. Heck, it happens every time cold
weather comes around. I wish it were warmer as I have a big pond in my
Mom's backyard that really needs some more work before fish are
re-introduced, but it looks as if that will have to wait for spring.
Should I, perhaps, un-subscribe to rec.ponds for the duration? Heck,
no, I have friends here!
We have a wide range of interests in here and don't usually bother too
much if things go Off-Topic (that little OT there in the subject line is
included just so folks can fail to read these messages if they so
desire), especially since some on here are a bit sluggish in learning
how to do new things with their computers and are just lucky to find and
keep on finding rec.ponds.
Just pass on by if you see that 'OT' in the subject line and you, along
with the rest of us and rec.ponds, will be just fine.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

Cybe is clearly smarter than I am, to pick up on Sameer's sleazy trick of
changing the "reply to" headers. Will someone please remind me how one
killfiles posts from someone like this? Clearly, this is an example of the
need for doing this.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"Cybe R. Wizard" Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower wrote

Reply To: header re-changed back to rec.ponds instead of cola

"Anne Lurie" wrote in message
.com...
Cybe is clearly smarter than I am, to pick up on Sameer's sleazy trick of
changing the "reply to" headers. Will someone please remind me how one
killfiles posts from someone like this? Clearly, this is an example of
the
need for doing this.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC


It's not a sleazy trick, especially when I say I'm redirecting the
follow-ups for a particular post to a different newsgroup. In the future,
all you have to do, is look at the headers, for:
Followup-to:

In the previous message you saw this:
From: "Snooze"
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy

The "From:" line is who posted it, which contains my modified email address.
The "Newsgroups:" line tells what newsgroup it was posted to, and Follow-ups
means, whoever follows up to that particular post will post in the new
newsgroup.

Most newsreader software will warn you that you're posting into a different
newsgroup, incase you didn't notice the follow-up line. A killfile general
blocks entire threads, or posters. If you want to add me to your kill file,
here are the directions for the newsreader you appear to be using: Microsoft
Outlook Newsreader

Click once on the message, go to the message menu, go down to 'block
sender', then you will see no further posts from me.

Sameer

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:27:30 GMT
"Snooze" wrote:

It's not a sleazy trick, especially when I say I'm redirecting the
follow-ups for a particular post to a different newsgroup.

I, for one, don't think it was a sleazy trick nor probably intentional
that you /did not/ mention that you were changing the reply to: header.
But, still, you didn't mention it at all, merely said the discussion
belonged there. Here is a quote from your original message:

"This thread needs to end, there are plenty of linux groups that are
better suited to this discussion, for example comp.os.linux.advocacy,
rec.ponds is better suited for ponding."

Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L

mad wrote in message ...
to quote maynard g. krebs: WORK?

G Dumb kids these days just give me a funny look when I quote Maynard.

"Snooze" wrote in message .com...

This thread needs to end, there are plenty of linux groups that are better
suited to this discussion, for example comp.os.linux.advocacy, rec.ponds is
better suited for ponding.

Ever consider the demographics of who can afford ponds and who would
find ponds to be most relaxing? G

(I had not, until I saw the quality of responses to the original
post.)

ah well, age kicks a** sometimes. i am in awe of those who have lived more
and know more than i do. someday those same dumb kids will realize...
:-D
mad
--
"We are all born mad. Some remain so."
Irish playwright Samuel Beckett


From: (Offbreed)


mad wrote in message
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to quote maynard g. krebs: WORK?

G Dumb kids these days just give me a funny look when I quote Maynard.



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"Snooze" wrote in message news:

This thread needs to end, there are plenty of linux groups that are better
suited to this discussion, for example comp.os.linux.advocacy, rec.ponds is
better suited for ponding.

On 10 Nov 2003 19:46:25 -0800, (Offbreed) wrote:
Ever consider the demographics of who can afford ponds and who would
find ponds to be most relaxing? G

(I had not, until I saw the quality of responses to the original
post.)

I agree. Where would rec.ponds be without our computers, we couldn't
cyberpond? Seems to me the conversation is On Topic. Rec.ponds & Computers
go hand in hand, if you asked me. ;o) ~ jan (the pond geek living in a
household with 3 computer *Linux their specialty* geeks.)


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

"Snooze" wrote

[snippage hopefully at least close to correct]

In the previous message you saw this:
From: "Snooze"
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy

Nope. Since I'm using [the obviously-lacking] Outlook Express for email and
newsgroups, what I saw on your post was "Snooze" to "rec.ponds" "OT
Linux". period. And, when I hit "Reply Group", it showed (and still does
show) "rec.ponds" as the recipient of [any email I cared to send] with :
yada-yada-yada OT Linux as the subject.

The "From:" line is who posted it, which contains my modified email
address.

Nope. Lame-o Outlook Express just ID's you as Snooze.

The "Newsgroups:" line tells what newsgroup it was posted to,

I wish!!! Good ole OE just says "To: rec.ponds"

and Follow-ups
means, whoever follows up to that particular post will post in the new
newsgroup.

Well, if that showed up in not-so-good lame-o Outlook Express, I might have
been able to figure that one out for myself.

I was wrong to talk about killfiling your posts; I apologize. Although
there may come a time when I do need to kill-file newsgroup posts because
they are egregiously offensive -- this thread has not reached that limit.
Again, I apologize for not having my priorities straight.

Also, from now on, I will double-check the "recipients" of any replies,
because it seems that ever-increasing vigilance is in order.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...

I agree. Where would rec.ponds be without our computers, we couldn't
cyberpond? Seems to me the conversation is On Topic. Rec.ponds & Computers
go hand in hand, if you asked me. ;o) ~ jan (the pond geek living in a
household with 3 computer *Linux their specialty* geeks.)

OT threads are fun, but the linux vs windows thread is so old, I find it
truely boring. I started using linux when I was a freshmen in college,
around '93.

Then in '97 I switched to FreeBSD, because the version of gcc/g++ I had at
the time did not support the C++ standard template library. At the time, my
choices were
1: wait a week to download the latest version of slackware over a 14.4 modem
2: spend a week compiling a newer version of gcc so I could upgrade my libc,
so that I could compile the latest version of gcc, then recompile all the
stuff that broke, when I upgraded the libc.
3: install FreeBSD off the cd.

I've been happy with it since, although linux has made a lot of improvements
since then, but I'm lazy, and rewriting and recompiling all of my stuff on a
linux system is too much for marginal gain.

Sameer

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:48:29 GMT
"Snooze" wrote:

OT threads are fun, but the linux vs windows thread is so old, I find
it truely boring.

Lots of folks here don't have those years of /technical/ computer
experience. Informed choice should never go out of style. If it bores
one, one may opt out of reading plainly marked OT threads but might
re-think netcopping those who are still involved with freeing the
ability of people to make informed choice.
Boring or not there are serious questions about the Microsoft
organization and its products. These need to be brought to the
attention of computer users if only for their own edification.

Cybe R. Wizard -impressed that Snooze used Linux /before/ the version 1
release!
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.H.P.
Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L