On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote:

I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to
identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site.
I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a
binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe
help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries
groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog
photos to. Any suggestions, preferences?

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

As a start you might visit=20

http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...opic&forum=3D7

Then a visit to=20

http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/

might help you identify your frogs.

"KenCo" wrote in message
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Gail Futoran wrote:

rec.binaries.herp?
search rec groups

Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group,
just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the
like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and
try to find something that might work without offending
anyone with a potentially off-topic question.

Gail

"GrannyGrump" wrote in message
...

think for real-life photos of wildlife - unless I'm
missing
something??

You're missing something...

Clip art is mostly line drawings, and most of that is
related to the Holiday season. I really don't think the
posters to alt.binaries.clip-art would appreciate my coming
in with a real-life frog photo and asking for an ID. That's
why I asked if I was missing something but you really didn't
tell me what I was missing.

Try Ken's suggestion.

As I wrote to Ken, my server doesn't list any rec.binaries
groups, only alt.binaries groups and none that list herps or
frogs or toads or anything similar.

I'm heading for Google groups and will figure something out
on my own. I just thought if someone here had experience
posting wildlife/pond/etc. photos to a binaries group, they
could point me in the right direction, as I've tried to help
others in the past.

So I'll just retract the request and thank those of you who
tried to help. I'll take it from here on my own.

Gail
San Antonio TX

"Rex Walker" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:19:34 GMT, "Gail Futoran"
wrote:

I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to
identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX
site.
I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to
a
binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe
help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries
groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog
photos to. Any suggestions, preferences?

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

As a start you might visit

http://talkto.thefrog.org/index.php?...vtopic&forum=7

Then a visit to

http://www.lifesci.utexas.edu/research/txherps/frogs/

might help you identify your frogs.

"Many thanks for those links. I've explored the second one
(Herps of TX) quite a bit with no success over the past year
or two, but I'm not familiar with the first link and will
look into it."

Gail

Clip art is mostly line drawings, and most of that is
related to the Holiday season. I really don't think the
posters to alt.binaries.clip-art would appreciate my coming
in with a real-life frog photo and asking for an ID.

All images are posted on clip-art, not just line drawings.

Actually, very little line drawings are posted there.

Worth a try...put OT in the subject line. Worst they can do is flame
you or ignore you.

Gail Futoran wrote:

Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries group,
just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or the
like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups and
try to find something that might work without offending
anyone with a potentially off-topic question.

Gail




how big is the file size of the pic??

if its under 50K then email it to me and i'll
post a link for anyone to view it.




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Gail,

A quick trip to Google searching for these words
identify frog Texas
turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/

You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's "A
Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide.

Happy Ponding,
Tim

"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
...
I see small green frogs around here but have been unable to
identify them, either through books or the Herps of TX site.
I did get a few good photos and would like to post them to a
binaries group and direct interested parties there to maybe
help me ID the frogs, but there are SOOOOO many binaries
groups, and I don't know which I should be posting the frog
photos to. Any suggestions, preferences?

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

Even easier to use might be this link, you can click on any state and it'll
show thumbnails of frogs found in that state:
http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frog...state=tx#frogs

"tim chandler" wrote in message
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Gail,

A quick trip to Google searching for these words
identify frog Texas
turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/

You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended is Roger Conant's
"A
Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson Field Guide.

Happy Ponding,
Tim

"KenCo" wrote in message
...
Gail Futoran wrote:

Unfortunately my server doesn't list any rec.binaries
group,
just alt.binaries groups, and no alt.binaries.herps or
the
like. I suppose the thing to do is go to Google groups
and
try to find something that might work without offending
anyone with a potentially off-topic question.

Gail




how big is the file size of the pic??

if its under 50K then email it to me and i'll
post a link for anyone to view it.

Thanks for the offer, Ken. I had planned to edit the
photo(s) and make them as small as possible and still
viewable. Let me get back to you about it.

Gail

Thanks for the links. I've bookmarked them. I didn't spot
"my" frog (he/she seems to be hiding g) but there are some
possibilities there.

I've thought about purchasing the guidebook you mentioned
but perusing it in the bookstore I didn't see my frog, and I
have several other guidebooks already. But I didn't have
the photos at the time, so that might be a possibility.

Gail

"tim chandler" wrote in message
...
Even easier to use might be this link, you can click on
any state and it'll
show thumbnails of frogs found in that state:

http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frog...state=tx#frogs

"tim chandler" wrote in message
...
Gail,

A quick trip to Google searching for these words
identify frog Texas
turns up quite a few links, one that has pictures is
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/idguide/

You can also buy a good field guide, highly recommended
is Roger Conant's
"A
Field Guide to Reptiles and Amphibians", a Peterson
Field Guide.

Happy Ponding,
Tim

Gail Futoran wrote:

Thanks for the offer, Ken. I had planned to edit the
photo(s) and make them as small as possible and still
viewable. Let me get back to you about it.

Gail





there up, look here.
http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog1.jpg

http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog2.jpg




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Well.....
it's an amphibian!
a frog
I think.
Looks more frog like
than toad like.
Need a more detailed and
bigger picture.


ka30p
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html

"KenCo" wrote
there up, look here.
http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog1.jpg

http://www.kencofish.com/pics/frog2.jpg




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Thanks, Ken!

Just to repeat basic info.: These are small frogs, less
than 2" long, consistent olive green color (no other colors
or patterns), mottled skin. I see them mostly after a rain
but this guy was on the surface of one of my rose beds. I
have also seen them underwater in small frog ponds or
container lids that collected rainwater temporarily.

I live just east of San Antonio TX and have not been able to
identify these frogs in books or various websites. If
anyone knows what they are, I'd love to be informed.

Gail

"Ka30P" wrote in message
...

Well.....
it's an amphibian!
a frog
I think.
Looks more frog like
than toad like.
Need a more detailed and
bigger picture.


ka30p
http://www.geocities.com/watergarden...dors/home.html

I already figured out it was a frog. I have toads in the
yard, Gulf Coast Toads (no problem identifying them). The
green frog looks kind of like a lot of other frogs I've seen
in books and on websites but not a close enough fit.

These are the best pictures I've been able to get in about 3
years of observing (opportunistically) these little guys.

Gail

Have you been able to see the belly part? It looks to me from the back very
much like a Fire-Belly Toad that PetsMart is always selling. They don't
look very toad like either, and about similar in size. Their belly region
will be creme to red in color based on what they've been eating and/or
mating season (got me). All I pulled up was a tiny fingernail picture, so
can't really tell, other than that is what went thru my mind. Not sure
where Fire-Belly Toads are native (website says Asia), but I'm sure if
PetsMart sells them down there, turn a few loose in your warm climate and
they'd probably do fine.

http://centralpets.com/pages/photopa..._TOD2552.shtml
for photos of FB Toads, though mine were not that bumpy or brightly
colored. ~ jan

I already figured out it was a frog. I have toads in the
yard, Gulf Coast Toads (no problem identifying them). The
green frog looks kind of like a lot of other frogs I've seen
in books and on websites but not a close enough fit.

These are the best pictures I've been able to get in about 3
years of observing (opportunistically) these little guys.

Gail
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