I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

"Rob" wrote in message
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I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

The tubing use is clear polyehtylene, smooth tubing. You can buy it at any
hardware store.

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"Rob" wrote in message
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I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing

The tubing use is clear polyehtylene, [sp] smooth tubing.
You can buy it at any hardware store.

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?
The hydrodynamics of tubing have to consider the buildup of plaque or gunque
over time, too. My theory is the turbulence helps clear the walls of stuff
without restricting the flow as much as you might think.
--
Crashj "that's my theory and I'm sticking to it!" Johnson

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?

Use hard pipe where you can, braided flex tubing, clear with threads within
the rubber/plastic like material, where you have to have flex. Under water
we've had no trouble with build up. Out of the pond if you can't bury it,
cover it with the foam pipe insulation tubes. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

There is a picture of braided flex tubing on *The Demon Pond Filter* on my
website, we use it to connect the pumps from the pump chamber to the pvc
with camlocks. www.jjspond.us ~ jan

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:45:21 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?

Use hard pipe where you can, braided flex tubing, clear with threads within
the rubber/plastic like material, where you have to have flex. Under water
we've had no trouble with build up. Out of the pond if you can't bury it,
cover it with the foam pipe insulation tubes. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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There is a picture of braided flex tubing on *The Demon Pond Filter* on my
website, we use it to connect the pumps from the pump chamber to the pvc
with camlocks. www.jjspond.us ~ jan

The hose you use on the pump looks to be the same material I use to connect my
pre-filter to the main filter.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:45:21 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?

Use hard pipe where you can, braided flex tubing, clear with threads within
the rubber/plastic like material, where you have to have flex. Under water
we've had no trouble with build up. Out of the pond if you can't bury it,
cover it with the foam pipe insulation tubes. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
There is a picture of braided flex tubing on *The Demon Pond Filter* on my
website, we use it to connect the pumps from the pump chamber to the pvc
with camlocks. www.jjspond.us ~ jan

The hose you use on the pump looks to be the same material I use to connect my
pre-filter to the main filter.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:45:21 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?

Use hard pipe where you can, braided flex tubing, clear with threads within
the rubber/plastic like material, where you have to have flex. Under water
we've had no trouble with build up. Out of the pond if you can't bury it,
cover it with the foam pipe insulation tubes. ~ jan


~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~

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"Rob" wrote in message
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I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing

The tubing use is clear polyehtylene, [sp] smooth tubing.
You can buy it at any hardware store.

The big box stores carry a variety, sure, but won't the cheap stuff collapse
under suction?

Sorry about the spelling. No, the wall of the tubing I use it about 3/16 inch
thick, which is thicker than garden hose. You can also buy the same tubing with
polyester reinforcement.

The hydrodynamics of tubing have to consider the buildup of plaque or gunque
over time, too. My theory is the turbulence helps clear the walls of stuff
without restricting the flow as much as you might think.

I've used this tubing for two years with no build up.

Rob wrote:
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

Rob... as you have seen from the various posts there are a myriad types
of tubing...

To your question the black spiral tubing I've seen referred to the most
is "no kink" tubing and it is virtually smooth Inside... the spirals
are on the outside.

Now if you are using this tube on your suction line the spirals will
also help keep the tubing from collapsing from too much suction... it
is not as tough as PVC/ABS but much easier to work. Even if you choose
not to go with this you will probably need some sort of rigid or
semi-rigid tube for this purpose.

If it is for the out-put from your pump then any polyester reinforced
tube will be fine...barring really odd conditions the water pressure
alone will keep in the right shape.

Rob wrote:
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

Rob... as you have seen from the various posts there are a myriad types
of tubing...

To your question the black spiral tubing I've seen referred to the most
is "no kink" tubing and it is virtually smooth Inside... the spirals
are on the outside.

Now if you are using this tube on your suction line the spirals will
also help keep the tubing from collapsing from too much suction... it
is not as tough as PVC/ABS but much easier to work. Even if you choose
not to go with this you will probably need some sort of rigid or
semi-rigid tube for this purpose.

If it is for the out-put from your pump then any polyester reinforced
tube will be fine...barring really odd conditions the water pressure
alone will keep in the right shape.

My experience with clear tubing was that it algaed-up inside because of
sunlight and reduced my flow drastically, but as long as you buried it and
covered any part of it that is exposed, it may be alright. That is why I
went to black - algae problem solved , then I went to the "ribbed, anti-kink
black hose when it came out to solve the kinking, flattening problem where
bends or runs under rocks
Gale :~)
wrote in message
...

Rob wrote:
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

Rob... as you have seen from the various posts there are a myriad types
of tubing...

To your question the black spiral tubing I've seen referred to the most
is "no kink" tubing and it is virtually smooth Inside... the spirals
are on the outside.

Now if you are using this tube on your suction line the spirals will
also help keep the tubing from collapsing from too much suction... it
is not as tough as PVC/ABS but much easier to work. Even if you choose
not to go with this you will probably need some sort of rigid or
semi-rigid tube for this purpose.

If it is for the out-put from your pump then any polyester reinforced
tube will be fine...barring really odd conditions the water pressure
alone will keep in the right shape.

My experience with clear tubing was that it algaed-up inside because of
sunlight and reduced my flow drastically, but as long as you buried it and
covered any part of it that is exposed, it may be alright. That is why I
went to black - algae problem solved , then I went to the "ribbed, anti-kink
black hose when it came out to solve the kinking, flattening problem where
bends or runs under rocks
Gale :~)
wrote in message
...

Rob wrote:
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

Rob... as you have seen from the various posts there are a myriad types
of tubing...

To your question the black spiral tubing I've seen referred to the most
is "no kink" tubing and it is virtually smooth Inside... the spirals
are on the outside.

Now if you are using this tube on your suction line the spirals will
also help keep the tubing from collapsing from too much suction... it
is not as tough as PVC/ABS but much easier to work. Even if you choose
not to go with this you will probably need some sort of rigid or
semi-rigid tube for this purpose.

If it is for the out-put from your pump then any polyester reinforced
tube will be fine...barring really odd conditions the water pressure
alone will keep in the right shape.

People seem to be missing the point. The black spiral tubing you buy at
aquarium suppliers is smooth on the inside, so water flow is not restricted.
The tubing itself is thick and can stand strong suction and burial without
collapsing.

Scott M.
Ottawa, Ontario


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

People seem to be missing the point. The black spiral tubing you buy at
aquarium suppliers is smooth on the inside, so water flow is not restricted.
The tubing itself is thick and can stand strong suction and burial without
collapsing.

Scott M.
Ottawa, Ontario


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I can't quite figure out the tubing thing: many sites recommend the
black spiral tubing, but in my mind, the ridges will inhibit water
flow compared to smooth tubing. I need 1.25" tubing. Is the
spiraling stuff really the best way to go? It seems expensive...

Thanks in advance.

The tubing use is clear polyehtylene, smooth tubing. You can buy it at any
hardware store.