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Old 07-11-2004, 07:13 PM
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The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?
They seem so overextended that a three day job is taking them 6
half-days spread out over three weeks. So I can't ask them anything if
they're not even here. This hasn't be a cheerful situation. I would
like to get my koi back in the pond, but I don't dare.

Ruth Kazez

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Old 08-11-2004, 02:12 AM
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Many have used the roof liner with success. I would put my worst fish in as
a sacrificial lamb and see how it does for a few days, and then go ahead and
add the rest of the fish.
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The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so they
used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to put fish
in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve? They seem so
overextended that a three day job is taking them 6 half-days spread out
over three weeks. So I can't ask them anything if they're not even here.
This hasn't be a cheerful situation. I would like to get my koi back in
the pond, but I don't dare.

Ruth Kazez



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Many have used the roof liner with success. I would put my worst fish in as
a sacrificial lamb and see how it does for a few days, and then go ahead and
add the rest of the fish.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

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The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so they
used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to put fish
in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve? They seem so
overextended that a three day job is taking them 6 half-days spread out
over three weeks. So I can't ask them anything if they're not even here.
This hasn't be a cheerful situation. I would like to get my koi back in
the pond, but I don't dare.

Ruth Kazez



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Old 08-11-2004, 02:12 AM
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Many have used the roof liner with success. I would put my worst fish in as
a sacrificial lamb and see how it does for a few days, and then go ahead and
add the rest of the fish.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

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The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so they
used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to put fish
in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve? They seem so
overextended that a three day job is taking them 6 half-days spread out
over three weeks. So I can't ask them anything if they're not even here.
This hasn't be a cheerful situation. I would like to get my koi back in
the pond, but I don't dare.

Ruth Kazez



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Old 09-11-2004, 11:44 AM
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Roof liner works just fine for all of us that have reported on it. Can you
wash it off and flush out the pond before filling it and putting the fish
in? Phyllis and I have roof liner in two of the veggie filters ( 5 x 5 x
1.5 and 8 x 4 x 1.5). No problems ever from them. RichToyBox has a good
suggestion: try a sacrificial lamb and see how it does. You could even get
a healthy goldfish and toss it in.

Good luck.

Jim


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The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so they
used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to put fish
in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve? They seem so
overextended that a three day job is taking them 6 half-days spread out
over three weeks. So I can't ask them anything if they're not even here.
This hasn't be a cheerful situation. I would like to get my koi back in
the pond, but I don't dare.

Ruth Kazez





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Old 09-11-2004, 03:31 PM
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try a sacrificial lamb and see how it does.

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Just be warned Jim and Rich don't always think before they post. I mean,
seriously, how long will a lamb survive in a pond? And when it's all done,
what does that tell you about fish? Nothing.

I think they are just being silly, but that just my two cents.

BV.


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Old 09-11-2004, 10:21 PM
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rtk wrote:

The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?


Unless they paid extra, for the coating, there wouldn't be any.

That is an extra step, which isn't needed for standard roofing.
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John Hines wrote:

The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?



Unless they paid extra, for the coating, there wouldn't be any.

That is an extra step, which isn't needed for standard roofing.


I'm sure they wouldn't pay extra, but they said I would have to wait
five days, so I guess there's something on it. I just don't understand
where anything bad could go, could it actually evaporate. I googled
roof lining for ponds and thought it was very funny that someone said he
always thought it was a bad thing but had read on rec.ponds that it was
just fine and that pond liners were just more or less cosmetic. Anyhow,
I'm going to wait for them to finally come around and put my least
favorite fish in, so if anything goes wrong I can blame them and not
feel guilty. It's a landscaping group and they seem awfully
overextended because they're dragging out a 3 day job to 6 half-days
spread over a month. Driving me batty. No way could I do it because of
the weight of the rocks.

Ruth Kazez
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:14 AM
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rtk wrote:



John Hines wrote:

The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?



Unless they paid extra, for the coating, there wouldn't be any.

That is an extra step, which isn't needed for standard roofing.


I'm sure they wouldn't pay extra, but they said I would have to wait
five days, so I guess there's something on it. I just don't understand
where anything bad could go, could it actually evaporate. I googled
roof lining for ponds and thought it was very funny that someone said he
always thought it was a bad thing but had read on rec.ponds that it was
just fine and that pond liners were just more or less cosmetic. Anyhow,
I'm going to wait for them to finally come around and put my least
favorite fish in, so if anything goes wrong I can blame them and not
feel guilty.


Take a scrap piece, and put it in a container or bucket. Add water, and
a feeder goldfish, or other sacrificial "lamb".

Do this right after the install, after the water is de-clor'd and force
the issue. If the feeder is still alive after 4-5 days, then it is ok
for the pond, and you can add him (and the rest) to the pond.

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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
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Just be warned Jim and Rich don't always think before they post. BV.

Ouch, BV. Ouch.
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Old 10-11-2004, 01:50 AM
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When they stop saying 'Baa', you know the water is toxic.

JH

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"Jim and Phyllis Hurley" wrote in message
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snip
try a sacrificial lamb and see how it does.

snip

Just be warned Jim and Rich don't always think before they post. I mean,
seriously, how long will a lamb survive in a pond? And when it's all done,
what does that tell you about fish? Nothing.

I think they are just being silly, but that just my two cents.

BV.




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Old 10-11-2004, 01:52 AM
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clever idea!

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rtk wrote:



John Hines wrote:

The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?


Unless they paid extra, for the coating, there wouldn't be any.

That is an extra step, which isn't needed for standard roofing.


I'm sure they wouldn't pay extra, but they said I would have to wait
five days, so I guess there's something on it. I just don't understand
where anything bad could go, could it actually evaporate. I googled
roof lining for ponds and thought it was very funny that someone said he
always thought it was a bad thing but had read on rec.ponds that it was
just fine and that pond liners were just more or less cosmetic. Anyhow,
I'm going to wait for them to finally come around and put my least
favorite fish in, so if anything goes wrong I can blame them and not
feel guilty.


Take a scrap piece, and put it in a container or bucket. Add water, and
a feeder goldfish, or other sacrificial "lamb".

Do this right after the install, after the water is de-clor'd and force
the issue. If the feeder is still alive after 4-5 days, then it is ok
for the pond, and you can add him (and the rest) to the pond.



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clever idea!

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"John Hines" wrote in message
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rtk wrote:



John Hines wrote:

The guys replacing my pond couldn't find a new liner fast enough, so
they used roof liner. They said that in five days it would be okay to
put fish in. Without any filtration? How can the chemicals dissolve?


Unless they paid extra, for the coating, there wouldn't be any.

That is an extra step, which isn't needed for standard roofing.


I'm sure they wouldn't pay extra, but they said I would have to wait
five days, so I guess there's something on it. I just don't understand
where anything bad could go, could it actually evaporate. I googled
roof lining for ponds and thought it was very funny that someone said he
always thought it was a bad thing but had read on rec.ponds that it was
just fine and that pond liners were just more or less cosmetic. Anyhow,
I'm going to wait for them to finally come around and put my least
favorite fish in, so if anything goes wrong I can blame them and not
feel guilty.


Take a scrap piece, and put it in a container or bucket. Add water, and
a feeder goldfish, or other sacrificial "lamb".

Do this right after the install, after the water is de-clor'd and force
the issue. If the feeder is still alive after 4-5 days, then it is ok
for the pond, and you can add him (and the rest) to the pond.



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I have a little rosy red I have named Isaac for the occasion; he's in
the small pond with all the big guys. Today if I can fish him out, so
to speak, I'll try putting him in some water from the big pond with the
week old roof lining. Unless, of course, I receive some last minute
instruction not to do so.

Ruth Kazez
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I have a little rosy red I have named Isaac for the occasion; he's in
the small pond with all the big guys. Today if I can fish him out, so
to speak, I'll try putting him in some water from the big pond with the
week old roof lining. Unless, of course, I receive some last minute
instruction not to do so.

Ruth Kazez


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