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Rose bush shape info for a very novice gardener (was How did everybody get started with thei
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, Gail Futoran wrote: "Kim" wrote in message ... In article , says... I think I must be on every mailing list related to roses. A large percentage of my bookmarks are websites that are in some way or another related to roses. I don't think I have bought anything new for the garden that wasn't a rose in the last couple years. Nothing beats the satisfaction of growing beautiful roses. I am officially obsessed. Mike z8TX Mike, do you have any links to sites that might show the general shape of a bush once it's "fully grown"? Please see example of what I'm talking about at the link below. http://www.vintagegardens.com/cgi-bi...l?id=65b1ia63c 8fa (search link) and put in "The Fairy" and once it comes up, select the bush style of the rose. Once you've done that, there is a drawing on the page that shows several "appearences" of bushes, and "The Fairy" is #2 in that group. I'm looking for this info because I'm getting ready to plant my first rose bed in a week (zone 6, northern panhandle of WV) or so and since I know very little about roses (yet) I figured I'd ask you folks on the rose group. The plants will arrive by the end of next week so I need to know which one will go where, based on how it might "grow up". The bed in question is hexagonal, with 6' sides. I will be putting in 7 roses George Burns Intrigue Lavaglut Margaret Merril Easy Going The Fairy Baby Grand This mini is 12 inches tall and very upright. Here's one link to a picture and description of a mature "The Fairy": http://members.fortunecity.com/cnett...ur/thefairy.ht ml Here's a very well grown The Fairy, maybe more than one plant: http://home.earthlink.net/~berndoodl...es/Garden5.htm |
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Rose bush shape info for a very novice gardener (was How did everybody get started with thei
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says... On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Kim asked me: Mike, do you have any links to sites that might show the general shape of a bush once it's "fully grown"? Please see example of what I'm talking about at the link below. Hi Kim, I'm sorry to say you have me stumped. I can't think of a site that has photos or drawings of the mature form of a large variety of roses. It's hit and miss with vendor sites - they sometimes show a shot of the entire plant, but mostly stick with close-ups of the blooms. Non-vendor sites that I've bookmarked are mostly specific to a particular "type" of rose, such as Old Garden Roses or Austins. Or they relate to the care of roses, or have lots of beautiful photographs (again, focusing on the blooms) of roses. I would say that a site like you're hoping to find would be very useful, though. Maybe someone else here knows of one? Here's one I've known about for years. It's where I found out just what my John Cabot was. At that point I had completely forgotten what the rose's name was so I had to search for it totally by looking at pictures and going on the comment that it was hardy in cold areas. http://www.oldheirloomroses.com/ They have quite a few pictures on their site of the "full" rose bushes. Picture quality isn't superb -- looks like some of them were blown up a bit too much -- but there are quite a lot of "natural" looking photos of full bushes to look at. I can tell you most floribundas tend to be medium size plants (about 4 feet tall,) and a little wider than they are tall. The Fairy is a polyantha, it will be a little shorter, not much - still a medium sized plant, and about as wide as it is tall. The overall form will be very similiar to your floribundas. Baby Grand is a miniature and will be the shortest plant by far. Probably about a foot and a half tall and not as wide. This is generally speaking, some floribundas are a little taller than others, etc. I believe most of your roses will be around the same size and shape at maturity, save the Baby Grand. Intrigue will probably be a little taller than the other floribundas. The Fairy will probably be a little shorter than your floribundas. When I was doing my online shopping in January I used 'Fork 'n Spade' for looking up info on the roses I was considering. They had one part of their listing for height & habitat. I'll show you what they said about the ones I ordered: George Burns - 4', Rounded Intrigue - 4', Bushy Lavaglut - 4', Upright Margaret Merril - 4', Upright Easy Going - 4', Rounded The Fairy - 2', Bushy Baby Grand - 2', Compact, Bushy Now what the heck are the definitions of "Rounded", "Bushy", and "Upright"? I had a vague picture in my mind of what I thought they were, but now I have no clue, since I've gone out and looked for the same roses at other sites and have gotten different dimensions (for instance, one place said George might get to 5' high). Since some of these roses are pretty well known, can somebody possibly tell me if the above descriptions are anywhere close to accurate, and what they actually mean? It would make things alot easier on me to have a good mind's eye picture. some pruning Sorry I couldn't give you better information. I hope this gives you some idea, though - and try helpmefind. It will at least provide you with the mature height of all your roses. Since all but two of your roses are floribundas, they will all have similiar form, so you should be able to figure out your design by finding out which floribunda should grow the tallest and placing it in the center, and then arranging the others by bloom color with your miniature Baby Grand as an accent. A little bit of advice - you might end up wanting to get one or two additional Baby Grands to balance out your design. Two or three of them, either grouped together or strategically placed around the outside edge of your design, might look better than just one with all those other relatively tall roses. You could fit two or three miniatures in the space you have reserved for one average-sized rose. Ummm...after rethinking the Baby Grand I decided it would make a good Mother's Day present. g Mom will be putting in a boatload of minis this year (purchased from I have no clue where) and perhaps this Baby will become the focal point of this year's gardening effort. To replace it, I got a J&P "Cherish" at the co-op. Yes, I realize it'll be one bare root rose amongst the 6 container roses in the bed, but it will be interesting to see how it does in comparison. It claims it's a Grade 1, and has a few leaves starting on it now. Unfortunately it has to wait until the others get here to go in the ground. I'm feeling a bit timid about ripping the box off of it and plunking it into a bucket of water. This may sound silly, but where should the bucket be stored, once the rose is in it? Indoors? Outdoors? On the sun porch? In the garage/shed? Never having done this I don't know where to put it to hold until the others arrive. -- Kim "We have done so much with so little for so long that now we can do anything with nothing." -- Dave Marcis |
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Rose bush shape info for a very novice gardener (was How did everybody get started with thei
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says... Here's a very well grown The Fairy, maybe more than one plant: http://home.earthlink.net/~berndoodl...es/Garden5.htm I surely hope that's more than one! Or else you can prune one down quite a bit... -- Kim "We have done so much with so little for so long that now we can do anything with nothing." -- Dave Marcis |
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