Spring is well under way in Sydney Australia. Good soil moisture (for
now) and plenty of sun. One rose making a good start is my potted
Granada:

http://members.optushome.com.au/djhanna/granadapot

It seems to be almost cluster-flowering. Is this the exuberance of
spring or does Granada often flower on short stems like this?

Thanks in advance for any intelligence... I'll take shots of it again
when the blooms open. A shot from last year now adorns my home page:

http://members.optushome.com.au/djhanna/

On 14 Sep 2003 03:39:05 GMT, Daniel Hanna
wrote:



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It seems to be almost cluster-flowering. Is this the exuberance of
spring or does Granada often flower on short stems like this?

Daniel, this is why here we call it a Grandiflora--it is a cross
between a floribunda and a hybrid tea so it does tend to bloom in
sprays. Mine (before the voles ate it) bloomed in sprays but very
tall/long ones, so that I could cut the stems right at where they met
and still have what looked like longstemmed hybrid teas in the vase.
Helpmefind ought to have the exact lineage for Granada. I have noticed
that some of the most deliciously fragrant, lovely roses are
Grandifloras--Gold Medal come to mind. Great rose taken by individual
bloom, never very vigorous in my garden, but smells great!! Blackspot
magnet too. And--it blooms in sprays. BY the way--if you pinch out the
side buds (I'm sure you know this) your Granada will produce fewer,
but bigger, more luxurious blooms. I love that rose. *sigh* My two
Roses Unlimited ownroots are still just tiny.





Thanks in advance for any intelligence... I'll take shots of it again
when the blooms open. A shot from last year now adorns my home page:

http://members.optushome.com.au/djhanna/

In m Shiva wrote:
Daniel, this is why here we call it a Grandiflora--it is a cross
between a floribunda and a hybrid tea so it does tend to bloom in
sprays.
Helpmefind ought to have the exact lineage for Granada.

Actually, helpmefind lists Granada as an HT although one of its parents (
Cavalcade) IS a floribunda.


I have noticed
that some of the most deliciously fragrant, lovely roses are
Grandifloras--Gold Medal come to mind.

As a class of rose, I haven't heard the term Grandiflora in some time,
Shiva. It was a description peculiar to the US and wasn't followed in
Europe or Australia/NZ. I thought it might have died in the US too.

Most of what you call 'Grandifloras' are classed here simply as
floribundas, although Gold Medal and Granada are both called HT here.
The one nursery that tried to introduce the term was Swanes (local J&P
distributor). Their grandiflora list was:

* Queen Elizabeth
* Aquarius
* Tournament of Roses
* White Lightnin'

Go figure!! I will keep watching Granada and hope for some lovely long
cutting stems later in the season, without having to remove buds (can't
bring myself to commit infanticide!).

Thanks for the info.