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That odd straight across pruning method recently mentioned
I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits
use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:-
http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message ... I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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I have seen this done for hedge roses, doesn't look that good for garden
roses. Besides, you aren't really growing roses unless you have scars to prove it. dave weil wrote: I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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I have seen this done for hedge roses, doesn't look that good for garden
roses. Besides, you aren't really growing roses unless you have scars to prove it. dave weil wrote: I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:16:03 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster As much as I appreciate the help, I know all of that stuff. Anyone who's listened to me pratter on on this newgroup for the past couple of years can attest to that. Besides, I've probably to about 5 books that say the exact same thing. Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message .. . I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:16:03 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster As much as I appreciate the help, I know all of that stuff. Anyone who's listened to me pratter on on this newgroup for the past couple of years can attest to that. Besides, I've probably to about 5 books that say the exact same thing. Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message .. . I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:17:44 GMT, ben boorman
wrote: I have seen this done for hedge roses, doesn't look that good for garden roses. Well, that's not what was written here recently. They say it works surprisingly well. Apparently some big garden in the UK does it this way, to great effect. That's why I'm interested, but I don't think I saved the post unfortunately. My more conventional pruning hasn't been all that succesful with this bush, not that I claim to have done it exactly right. Besides, you aren't really growing roses unless you have scars to prove it. Well, your idea of rose growing and mine don't coincide, esecially since I usually do my pruning shirtless, in shorts and barefooted. I've got more holes in my foot than anyone can imagine. Yeah, I know - it's my own fault, but I'm lazy g. dave weil wrote: I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:17:44 GMT, ben boorman
wrote: I have seen this done for hedge roses, doesn't look that good for garden roses. Well, that's not what was written here recently. They say it works surprisingly well. Apparently some big garden in the UK does it this way, to great effect. That's why I'm interested, but I don't think I saved the post unfortunately. My more conventional pruning hasn't been all that succesful with this bush, not that I claim to have done it exactly right. Besides, you aren't really growing roses unless you have scars to prove it. Well, your idea of rose growing and mine don't coincide, esecially since I usually do my pruning shirtless, in shorts and barefooted. I've got more holes in my foot than anyone can imagine. Yeah, I know - it's my own fault, but I'm lazy g. dave weil wrote: I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our
own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? On the question of pruning straight across, I recall the Royal National Rose Society (foolishly) advocate this method on one occasion, but they have since rescinded that advice. The method did not choose any particular line to cut to for individual stems, it was more a case of "hedge cutting with a hedge trimmer or lawn shears". This method might appear to work to start with on vigorous bushes but die back will be extensive which will eventually weaken and/or make the rose look unsightly. Our society has many rose exhibitors in its ranks, many of national level, we can also boast at least four national champions. Articles about the cultivation of the Rose on the Bexrose web site are probably more meaningful than the lay-rose grower would appreciate at first sight. So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! Enjoy Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster PS they say you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink! - Have you tried holding his head under?! Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:16:03 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster As much as I appreciate the help, I know all of that stuff. Anyone who's listened to me pratter on on this newgroup for the past couple of years can attest to that. Besides, I've probably to about 5 books that say the exact same thing. Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message .. . I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our
own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? On the question of pruning straight across, I recall the Royal National Rose Society (foolishly) advocate this method on one occasion, but they have since rescinded that advice. The method did not choose any particular line to cut to for individual stems, it was more a case of "hedge cutting with a hedge trimmer or lawn shears". This method might appear to work to start with on vigorous bushes but die back will be extensive which will eventually weaken and/or make the rose look unsightly. Our society has many rose exhibitors in its ranks, many of national level, we can also boast at least four national champions. Articles about the cultivation of the Rose on the Bexrose web site are probably more meaningful than the lay-rose grower would appreciate at first sight. So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! Enjoy Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster PS they say you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink! - Have you tried holding his head under?! Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:16:03 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster As much as I appreciate the help, I know all of that stuff. Anyone who's listened to me pratter on on this newgroup for the past couple of years can attest to that. Besides, I've probably to about 5 books that say the exact same thing. Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message .. . I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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Are you that (sour) grape grower, again?!
Martin "Zericall" wrote in message news Yawn! On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:16:03 +0000 (UTC), "Martin" wrote: You will find an article on pruning on the Bexrose web site at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose Regards Martin Double Bexrose - Webmaster Email: Web Site: http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose "dave weil" wrote in message .. . I'm curious about the details of that pruning method that some Brits use for bushes. You know, the one where you just make a straight cut across the middle top of the bush. Does anyone have any details about it? Where do you choose your line? Do you do any other "lateral" pruning. Etc. Etc. My big Aloha is getting rangy and "tall growing" instead of its normal bush form. I'd like to get it back to normal if possible. It's now about 10 feet tall in the middle but looks sparse on the side. It used to be really round. If this odd pruning method can help, I'm game. My previous pruning methods haven't really helped the shape of the bush. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: That must be good advice then if you have five books in agreement with our own article on pruning! Perhaps that say's something in itself? Yes, it says that, while it's OK to offer that *widely* available information on *your* web site (only one of dozens of websites that give the same information I might add), next time, please read the post before you promote your site instead of relying on a simple keyword to trigger some sort of quasiautoresponsebot sort of response. It will do your cause well, instead of causing people to ignore possible HELPFUL posts from you, as well as possibly avoiding the very website that you are trying to promote. Don' worry though, once you've been in the newsgroups awhile, you're likely to catch on. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote: So for the best of the best look again at:- http://home.btconnect.com/cadoss/bexrose and don't forget to read it all, and between the lines! It's not a bad site for a UK specific website. It's an immature site that I'm sure will grow with time. But it's hardly "the best of the best". It's barely adequate. It doesn't address very many rose issues and is pretty much barebones. For instance, *our* local website has FAR more valuable information regarding roses. http://www.nashvillerosesociety.com/ I don't care much for the look and feel of the NRS site, but it still offers practical information about the challenges that our area offers (issues that are FAR different than the issues that the UK growers face). So, drop the smugness and get on with building your site. PS, we have quite a few National winning members as well, including a well-known breeder or two *and* Ted Mills, who makes one of the most famous rose formulations sold in the States. I haven't been a member for a couple of years, but I still consult the website on occasion. Your site frankly doesn't need your bluster. |
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