Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange tree
out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners, but not as
bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a planter.

On a related topic, I sod planted some St Augustine last April. I
specificed high sun tolerant variety (don't remember the exact species).
Well, as noted by last year and this year, it kinda dries up and looks like
its gonna die after an all days' exposure to the sun. The highly shaded
areas, it does well. Cloudy days, seems okay in most of it. Sold product I
didn't specify, but now I'm stuck with it.

Want to plant lemon trees for long term growth to eventually shade the
house, grass, and front yard from the southern sun exposure. This is where
the St. Augustine is having most of the sun exposure problems. One side of
the yard has the primary sanitary drain pipe to the septic tank around 20
feet away from where I want to plant one lemon tree. Pipe is between 4 to 8
feet in depth within the yard as it goes downhill to the septic tank. Drain
pipe is rigid PVC schedule 40. Will this be problem in the future?

The other side of the yard is no problem, too far away from the piping.
--
Jonny

Jonny wrote:
Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange tree
out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners, but not as
bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a planter.

I've never heard of citrus trees having runners. Maybe seedlings? Unless
you have a well sheltered, warm spot in your garden, lemons are
container plants here in Austin.


--
Victor M. Martinez
Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
Send your spam he
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St Augustine works perfectly in full sun. You are not watering deep
enough, so that's your problem. Not to waste water, the areas where
my St Augustine crisps up I place concentric circles of drip hoses and
let them run for several hours, or till the soil is moist to about 8
inches.

Lemons are not hardy here in Austin. I have two Meyers lemon trees.
A variegated and a plain green. Every year I have to prune out
braches growing from the base, growing in toward the center, and
anything smaller than a pencil lead. They require shaping to look
like a tree.

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:15:15 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote:

Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange tree
out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners, but not as
bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a planter.

On a related topic, I sod planted some St Augustine last April. I
specificed high sun tolerant variety (don't remember the exact species).
Well, as noted by last year and this year, it kinda dries up and looks like
its gonna die after an all days' exposure to the sun. The highly shaded
areas, it does well. Cloudy days, seems okay in most of it. Sold product I
didn't specify, but now I'm stuck with it.

Want to plant lemon trees for long term growth to eventually shade the
house, grass, and front yard from the southern sun exposure. This is where
the St. Augustine is having most of the sun exposure problems. One side of
the yard has the primary sanitary drain pipe to the septic tank around 20
feet away from where I want to plant one lemon tree. Pipe is between 4 to 8
feet in depth within the yard as it goes downhill to the septic tank. Drain
pipe is rigid PVC schedule 40. Will this be problem in the future?

The other side of the yard is no problem, too far away from the piping.

You may be right about the water to the grass, but not the methods and how
much water. I've tried every imaginable method of watering, soaking to high
frequency light watering. Sod placed on topsoil brought from elsewhere.
The native ground is typical hill country, rock, gravel like, poor soil.
Front yard has steep downgrade to front. The grass only extends 10 feet
beyond the house on the brought in topsoil that's all around the house.

My brother, who lives on the north side of Canyon Lake has two lemon trees
that do well. Don't know the exact species. That's where I got the seed
for the seedlings growing now, lemons he gave to me that came from one of
those trees.
--
Jonny
"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
St Augustine works perfectly in full sun. You are not watering deep
enough, so that's your problem. Not to waste water, the areas where
my St Augustine crisps up I place concentric circles of drip hoses and
let them run for several hours, or till the soil is moist to about 8
inches.

Lemons are not hardy here in Austin. I have two Meyers lemon trees.
A variegated and a plain green. Every year I have to prune out
braches growing from the base, growing in toward the center, and
anything smaller than a pencil lead. They require shaping to look
like a tree.

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:15:15 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote:

Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange
tree
out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners, but not
as
bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a planter.

On a related topic, I sod planted some St Augustine last April. I
specificed high sun tolerant variety (don't remember the exact species).
Well, as noted by last year and this year, it kinda dries up and looks
like
its gonna die after an all days' exposure to the sun. The highly shaded
areas, it does well. Cloudy days, seems okay in most of it. Sold product
I
didn't specify, but now I'm stuck with it.

Want to plant lemon trees for long term growth to eventually shade the
house, grass, and front yard from the southern sun exposure. This is
where
the St. Augustine is having most of the sun exposure problems. One side
of
the yard has the primary sanitary drain pipe to the septic tank around 20
feet away from where I want to plant one lemon tree. Pipe is between 4 to
8
feet in depth within the yard as it goes downhill to the septic tank.
Drain
pipe is rigid PVC schedule 40. Will this be problem in the future?

The other side of the yard is no problem, too far away from the piping.

"Victor Martinez" wrote in message
...
Jonny wrote:
Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange
tree out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners,
but not as bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a
planter.

I've never heard of citrus trees having runners. Maybe seedlings? Unless
you have a well sheltered, warm spot in your garden, lemons are container
plants here in Austin.


--
Victor M. Martinez
Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)
Send your spam he
Email me he

Surface runners are roots that travel very near the ground surface. And may
show themselves above the ground. Pecan trees are probably the worst I've
seen in S. Central TX.
--
Jonny

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:10:35 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote:

You may be right about the water to the grass, but not the methods and how
much water. I've tried every imaginable method of watering, soaking to high
frequency light watering. Sod placed on topsoil brought from elsewhere.
The native ground is typical hill country, rock, gravel like, poor soil.
Front yard has steep downgrade to front. The grass only extends 10 feet
beyond the house on the brought in topsoil that's all around the house.

My brother, who lives on the north side of Canyon Lake has two lemon trees
that do well. Don't know the exact species. That's where I got the seed
for the seedlings growing now, lemons he gave to me that came from one of
those trees.

Oh, you could be in a pocket, but citrus are not hardy here.
Eventually you will lose it. Citrus grown from seeds generally never
produce fruits. You're better off buying some trees in large
containers

I agree. Lemon trees from seed usually take from 12 to 15 years to produce
fruit if at all. Most nursery trees are grafted to sour orange root stock.
If you want fruit, go get a tree from a good nursery.

Have Fun

JEM
"Jonny" wrote in message
ink.net...
You may be right about the water to the grass, but not the methods and how
much water. I've tried every imaginable method of watering, soaking to
high frequency light watering. Sod placed on topsoil brought from
elsewhere. The native ground is typical hill country, rock, gravel like,
poor soil. Front yard has steep downgrade to front. The grass only
extends 10 feet beyond the house on the brought in topsoil that's all
around the house.

My brother, who lives on the north side of Canyon Lake has two lemon trees
that do well. Don't know the exact species. That's where I got the seed
for the seedlings growing now, lemons he gave to me that came from one of
those trees.
--
Jonny
"Jangchub" wrote in message
...
St Augustine works perfectly in full sun. You are not watering deep
enough, so that's your problem. Not to waste water, the areas where
my St Augustine crisps up I place concentric circles of drip hoses and
let them run for several hours, or till the soil is moist to about 8
inches.

Lemons are not hardy here in Austin. I have two Meyers lemon trees.
A variegated and a plain green. Every year I have to prune out
braches growing from the base, growing in toward the center, and
anything smaller than a pencil lead. They require shaping to look
like a tree.

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:15:15 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote:

Wanna try some lemon tree growing. My grandma had a good sized orange
tree
out in her backyard. Do remember it had alot of surface runners, but not
as
bad as pecan trees. 3 lemon trees growing from seed now in a planter.

On a related topic, I sod planted some St Augustine last April. I
specificed high sun tolerant variety (don't remember the exact species).
Well, as noted by last year and this year, it kinda dries up and looks
like
its gonna die after an all days' exposure to the sun. The highly shaded
areas, it does well. Cloudy days, seems okay in most of it. Sold
product I
didn't specify, but now I'm stuck with it.

Want to plant lemon trees for long term growth to eventually shade the
house, grass, and front yard from the southern sun exposure. This is
where
the St. Augustine is having most of the sun exposure problems. One side
of
the yard has the primary sanitary drain pipe to the septic tank around 20
feet away from where I want to plant one lemon tree. Pipe is between 4
to 8
feet in depth within the yard as it goes downhill to the septic tank.
Drain
pipe is rigid PVC schedule 40. Will this be problem in the future?

The other side of the yard is no problem, too far away from the piping.