Help! I know very little at all about roses. Please can anyone suggest
likely candidates for reinstating a village tradition of having fragrant
white climbing roses growing through the church lych gate?

The old ones have long since expired due to a combination of neglect and
black spot - so long ago (decades) that replanting should not be a
serious problem.

The situation in North Yorkshire is fairly exposed to wind, one side is
roughly S facing with some dappled shade at midday and the other N
facing. There would be room for 2 or 3 roses on each side assuming a
4-6' spread of each plant.

Ideally we would like very fragrant, simple flowers with disease
resistance and colourful rose hips in autumn. I had a quick look at a
few catalogues but I have no idea how the plants really behave.

A long short list of candidates so far includes a few very old roses
still growing in neighbours gardens (but most of them are martyrs to
fungal diseases like black spot and orange something or other).

Of the named varieties in catalogues the following seem to fit the bill:

Alba Maxima
Alba Semi-Plena
Alberic Barbier
Blanc Double de Coubert
Blanche de Belgique
City of York
Iceberg Climber
Long John Silver
Mme Legras de St Germain
Mrs Herbert Stevens

Warnings if any of these are unsuitable would be very helpful.

It would be nice if the choices extended the flowering season over a
reasonable period of summer. And I am unsure how much of a maintainence
trap "vigorous" climbing roses might be. Any recommendations of what
might fit the bill or where to go and see some of these roses growing?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote:
Help! I know very little at all about roses. Please can anyone suggest
likely candidates for reinstating a village tradition of having fragrant
white climbing roses growing through the church lych gate?

The old ones have long since expired due to a combination of neglect and
black spot - so long ago (decades) that replanting should not be a
serious problem.

The situation in North Yorkshire is fairly exposed to wind, one side is
roughly S facing with some dappled shade at midday and the other N
facing. There would be room for 2 or 3 roses on each side assuming a
4-6' spread of each plant.

Ideally we would like very fragrant, simple flowers with disease
resistance and colourful rose hips in autumn. I had a quick look at a
few catalogues but I have no idea how the plants really behave.

A long short list of candidates so far includes a few very old roses
still growing in neighbours gardens (but most of them are martyrs to
fungal diseases like black spot and orange something or other).

Of the named varieties in catalogues the following seem to fit the bill:

Alba Maxima
Alba Semi-Plena
Alberic Barbier
Blanc Double de Coubert
Blanche de Belgique
City of York
Iceberg Climber
Long John Silver
Mme Legras de St Germain
Mrs Herbert Stevens

Warnings if any of these are unsuitable would be very helpful.

It would be nice if the choices extended the flowering season over a
reasonable period of summer. And I am unsure how much of a maintainence
trap "vigorous" climbing roses might be. Any recommendations of what
might fit the bill or where to go and see some of these roses growing?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Martin Brown

A very old variety, wonderfully fragrant for 2 or 3 weeks, bit of a thug
though, will spread 30' and the name couldn't be better for a church:
'Rambling Rector'

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Turner somewhat@odds.? writes

A very old variety, wonderfully fragrant for 2 or 3 weeks, bit of a thug
though, will spread 30' and the name couldn't be better for a church:
'Rambling Rector'

Far too big for a lych gate. My neighbour has one drowning a large old
apple tree - at least, he claims it's an apple tree, but no-one has seen
it for years.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

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Martin Brown writes:
| Help! I know very little at all about roses. Please can anyone suggest
| likely candidates for reinstating a village tradition of having fragrant
| white climbing roses growing through the church lych gate?

Don't ignore a species rose. I am not really a rose person, so
can't advise.

| It would be nice if the choices extended the flowering season over a
| reasonable period of summer. And I am unsure how much of a maintainence
| trap "vigorous" climbing roses might be. Any recommendations of what
| might fit the bill or where to go and see some of these roses growing?

I am sure of the effect of vigorous climbing roses - don't even
contemplate them. They could block the lych gate if left alone
for even a week or two at the wrong time of year.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Get yourself the David Austin's 'Handbook of Roses' from David Austin Roses
Ltd, Bowling Green Lane, Allbrighton, Wolverhampton, WV7 3HB Tel 01902
376300 fax 01902 372142

The do climbers and very old 'looking' english Roses and they are fragrant

This is from an old book so they may have a web site or email addy. Do a
search

:-))

Mike


"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Help! I know very little at all about roses. Please can anyone suggest
likely candidates for reinstating a village tradition of having fragrant
white climbing roses growing through the church lych gate?

The old ones have long since expired due to a combination of neglect and
black spot - so long ago (decades) that replanting should not be a
serious problem.

The situation in North Yorkshire is fairly exposed to wind, one side is
roughly S facing with some dappled shade at midday and the other N
facing. There would be room for 2 or 3 roses on each side assuming a
4-6' spread of each plant.

Ideally we would like very fragrant, simple flowers with disease
resistance and colourful rose hips in autumn. I had a quick look at a
few catalogues but I have no idea how the plants really behave.

A long short list of candidates so far includes a few very old roses
still growing in neighbours gardens (but most of them are martyrs to
fungal diseases like black spot and orange something or other).

Of the named varieties in catalogues the following seem to fit the bill:

Alba Maxima
Alba Semi-Plena
Alberic Barbier
Blanc Double de Coubert
Blanche de Belgique
City of York
Iceberg Climber
Long John Silver
Mme Legras de St Germain
Mrs Herbert Stevens

Warnings if any of these are unsuitable would be very helpful.

It would be nice if the choices extended the flowering season over a
reasonable period of summer. And I am unsure how much of a maintainence
trap "vigorous" climbing roses might be. Any recommendations of what
might fit the bill or where to go and see some of these roses growing?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Martin Brown

http://www.davidaustinroses.com/english/


Just up the road from me
regards
Cineman


"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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Help! I know very little at all about roses. Please can anyone suggest
likely candidates for reinstating a village tradition of having fragrant
white climbing roses growing through the church lych gate?

The old ones have long since expired due to a combination of neglect and
black spot - so long ago (decades) that replanting should not be a serious
problem.

The situation in North Yorkshire is fairly exposed to wind, one side is
roughly S facing with some dappled shade at midday and the other N facing.
There would be room for 2 or 3 roses on each side assuming a 4-6' spread
of each plant.

Ideally we would like very fragrant, simple flowers with disease
resistance and colourful rose hips in autumn. I had a quick look at a few
catalogues but I have no idea how the plants really behave.

A long short list of candidates so far includes a few very old roses still
growing in neighbours gardens (but most of them are martyrs to fungal
diseases like black spot and orange something or other).

Of the named varieties in catalogues the following seem to fit the bill:

Alba Maxima
Alba Semi-Plena
Alberic Barbier
Blanc Double de Coubert
Blanche de Belgique
City of York
Iceberg Climber
Long John Silver
Mme Legras de St Germain
Mrs Herbert Stevens

Warnings if any of these are unsuitable would be very helpful.

It would be nice if the choices extended the flowering season over a
reasonable period of summer. And I am unsure how much of a maintainence
trap "vigorous" climbing roses might be. Any recommendations of what might
fit the bill or where to go and see some of these roses growing?

Thanks for any advice.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Iceberg is delicate and will not like wind. I have one on an eastfacing wall in a very sheltered garden and it is not happy at all. It is almost 10 years old now, but I feel it should be replanted to a sunnier spot.