If you look in the News Group alt.binaries.clip-art
you'll find a photo of a pretty plant . Its named DSCF0007
Is anyone able to name this plant which appeared in my greenhouse
- behind my tomatoes - this year?

I've taken off a few seeds to grow on, and I intend
cutting back the stem shortly,and perhaps transplant
the roots in a pot in a protected area.

I'd appreciate a name, and any advice that you
may be able to proffer.

NB: I posted the photo on that particular NG
because it's the only one I know where I'll
not be abused for placing something off subject.
Is there a NG which deals with gardening binaries?

john wrote:

Is there a NG which deals with gardening binaries?

Can you search your server's available newsgroups for key words? It took
me under a second to find alt.binaries.pictures.gardens.
If you have a personal web page, you could just put the picture there and
post a link in the appropriate newsgroup. Nobody (well, hardly anyone)
would complain about that.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

"john" wrote in message
...
If you look in the News Group alt.binaries.clip-art
you'll find a photo of a pretty plant . Its named DSCF0007
Is anyone able to name this plant which appeared in my greenhouse
- behind my tomatoes - this year?

I've taken off a few seeds to grow on, and I intend
cutting back the stem shortly,and perhaps transplant
the roots in a pot in a protected area.

I'd appreciate a name, and any advice that you
may be able to proffer.

NB: I posted the photo on that particular NG
because it's the only one I know where I'll
not be abused for placing something off subject.
Is there a NG which deals with gardening binaries?

It's a thorn apple or datura, all parts of it are toxic and merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD, looking at those pictures, I don't see any
'apples', there should be thorny hard fruits somewhere...Some of the other
names the plant goes by a Mad apple, apple of Peru, devil's apple,
devil's trumpet, devil's weed, stink weed, jimson weed, jamestown-weed,
malpitte, moonflower and witch's thimble.


see here for more details:
http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/orga...weed.php?id=82

or go to google and type in datura

In article , Phil L
writes

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,



Are you absolutely sure of that?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Phil L
writes

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,



Are you absolutely sure of that?

Yes, with the emphasis on 'can'.

In article ,
Phil L wrote:
"Kay" wrote in message
...

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,

Are you absolutely sure of that?

Yes, with the emphasis on 'can'.

Really? I think that you have been taken in by an urban legend,
or perhaps tabloid sensationalism.

It is an EXTREMELY common plant in much of the world, and would
cause havoc if that were true. While toxins can be absorbed through
the skin, merely touching it will not transfer enough to cause any
significant effect, even in sensitive people. If you have any RELIABLE
information to the contrary, please post it.

I believe that the source of this myth is that you can be affected
if you are cutting it down or otherwise handling it in a way that
you get a significant amount of sap on your skin. In that, it
doesn't differ from quite a lot of poisonous plants.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Phil L wrote:
"Kay" wrote in message
...

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,

Are you absolutely sure of that?

Yes, with the emphasis on 'can'.

Really? I think that you have been taken in by an urban legend,
or perhaps tabloid sensationalism.

It is an EXTREMELY common plant in much of the world, and would
cause havoc if that were true. While toxins can be absorbed through
the skin, merely touching it will not transfer enough to cause any
significant effect, even in sensitive people. If you have any RELIABLE
information to the contrary, please post it.

I believe that the source of this myth is that you can be affected
if you are cutting it down or otherwise handling it in a way that
you get a significant amount of sap on your skin. In that, it
doesn't differ from quite a lot of poisonous plants.

They did a datura experiment on channel4 once - didn't sound very appealing
and not remotely like LSD / shroom-like in effect.

Definitely solanaceae, but looks a bit more like an edible physalis of some
sort - more likely to be mixed in with tomato seeeds I would have thought ?

When I say "edible", these things make me nervous - like the garden
huckleberry that looks very like a wild nightshade that used to spring up
all over my allotment ...



Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Phil L wrote:
"Kay" wrote in message
...

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,

Are you absolutely sure of that?

Yes, with the emphasis on 'can'.

Really? I think that you have been taken in by an urban legend,
or perhaps tabloid sensationalism.


I think it may have some psychotropic (is that the right word) peoperties
but you would have to eat it or make tea with it at a guess. It did feature
in the daft Carlos Castaneda books about as something that native Americans
used to ehhhhhh become religious but now that I think about it, that does
not neccessarily mean anything.

Des


It is an EXTREMELY common plant in much of the world, and would
cause havoc if that were true. While toxins can be absorbed through
the skin, merely touching it will not transfer enough to cause any
significant effect, even in sensitive people. If you have any RELIABLE
information to the contrary, please post it.

I believe that the source of this myth is that you can be affected
if you are cutting it down or otherwise handling it in a way that
you get a significant amount of sap on your skin. In that, it
doesn't differ from quite a lot of poisonous plants.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 9/11/05 18:20, in article , "Kay"
wrote:

In article , Phil L
writes

merely touching
it can give you trips like LSD,



Are you absolutely sure of that?

Wow! I'm rushing straight out to the big double now, to caress the six
Daturas standing there. ;-) Up until now, it was a dull morning..... ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)