I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower meadows"
and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read this about
ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

(found on another Ng)

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

seems a tad over health'n'safety conscious to me. But I remember being
horrified to find one on the dog's neck about 40 years ago. Friend said the
best thing to do, rather than pull it away, was touch it with a cigarette
because it withdrew its head


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower
meadows" and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read
this about ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

(found on another Ng)

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

Shazam" wrote after...
"Bob Hobden" posted
....
I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower
meadows" and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read
this about ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

seems a tad over health'n'safety conscious to me. But I remember being
horrified to find one on the dog's neck about 40 years ago. Friend said
the best thing to do, rather than pull it away, was touch it with a
cigarette because it withdrew its head

Just laying out the possibilities and what to do, I felt it a rather
balanced article with no hint of sensationalism, others appear to disagree.
I thought the cigarette thing was for Leeches in tropical jungles? :-)

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

In message , Bob Hobden
writes
Shazam" wrote after...
"Bob Hobden" posted
...
I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower
meadows" and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read
this about ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

seems a tad over health'n'safety conscious to me. But I remember being
horrified to find one on the dog's neck about 40 years ago. Friend said
the best thing to do, rather than pull it away, was touch it with a
cigarette because it withdrew its head

Just laying out the possibilities and what to do, I felt it a rather
balanced article with no hint of sensationalism, others appear to disagree.
I thought the cigarette thing was for Leeches in tropical jungles? :-)

The note appears to be very similar to the resource on ticks that we use
as H&S guidance at the moment -
http://www.bada-uk.org/pdfdocs/outdo...its_groups.pdf
--
Robert

On 18/12/05 11:43, in article
ws.net, "Shazam"
wrote:

seems a tad over health'n'safety conscious to me. But I remember being
horrified to find one on the dog's neck about 40 years ago. Friend said the
best thing to do, rather than pull it away, was touch it with a cigarette
because it withdrew its head

snip

NEVER pull it away. You can use a lighted cigarette if you have someone
around who smokes but animals hate the smell of cigarettes, sensible
creatures. We use a cotton bud dipped in meths or white spirit. The tick
drops off almost immediately. I'm told that coating the tick with olive oil
works because it suffocates them but it seems a waste of olive oil! I
haven't tried that one myself!
We regularly use Frontline or similar on the dogs but invariably they pick
up one or two ticks a year.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

NEVER pull it away. You can use a lighted cigarette if you have someone
around who smokes but animals hate the smell of cigarettes, sensible
creatures. We use a cotton bud dipped in meths or white spirit. The tick
drops off almost immediately. I'm told that coating the tick with olive oil
works because it suffocates them but it seems a waste of olive oil! I
haven't tried that one myself!

I have tried pulling fast and slowly, twisting, oil and cigarettes.
None of those work. If I get a tick close to home, I may try meths
and white spirit, but can't carry those on the hills if I am flying
there. I am afraid that I am not optimistic.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I have tried pulling fast and slowly, twisting, oil and cigarettes.
None of those work. If I get a tick close to home, I may try meths
and white spirit, but can't carry those on the hills if I am flying
there. I am afraid that I am not optimistic.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

We moved into a house with a VERY LARGE overgrown garden in Leicester and
one of my daughters got 'something' on the back of her neck. This turned out
to be a tick. What the hell is a tick? etc etc etc.

We had a Doctor living nearby and I went to see him.

Surgical Spirit, wad of Cotton wool, gentle pressure and a squeeze with a
gripping outward pressure. GONE :-)))

That was in about 1968. No after effects :-))

She now lives in a Manor House with umpteen acres and her problem now is
Badgers under the Tennis Court.

Surgical Spirit?

"I think not" :-))

Mike

Mike

On 18/12/05 16:57, in article
, "Mike"
wrote:
snip
She now lives in a Manor House with umpteen acres

What is the name of the hotel your daughter and her husband run?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

In article ,
Mike wrote:

We moved into a house with a VERY LARGE overgrown garden in Leicester and
one of my daughters got 'something' on the back of her neck. This turned out
to be a tick. What the hell is a tick? etc etc etc.

We had a Doctor living nearby and I went to see him.

The mind boggles. I have removed many dozens of ticks from myself,
in three continents, and would never dream of going to a doctor.

Surgical Spirit, wad of Cotton wool, gentle pressure and a squeeze with a
gripping outward pressure. GONE :-)))

Despite all of the comments on this thread, the critical factor is
how deeply a tick is dug in. If it is just biting lightly, then
any reasonable method will remove it. If it has burrowed right in,
then the only way to remove it completely is by cutting it out.

My guess is that the tendency of ticks to dig in is species specific,
but I have no certain knowledge of that.



Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

was getting this Manor House the direct result of having encountered a tick?


"Mike" wrote in message
...

I have tried pulling fast and slowly, twisting, oil and cigarettes.
None of those work. If I get a tick close to home, I may try meths
and white spirit, but can't carry those on the hills if I am flying
there. I am afraid that I am not optimistic.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

We moved into a house with a VERY LARGE overgrown garden in Leicester and
one of my daughters got 'something' on the back of her neck. This turned
out
to be a tick. What the hell is a tick? etc etc etc.

We had a Doctor living nearby and I went to see him.

Surgical Spirit, wad of Cotton wool, gentle pressure and a squeeze with a
gripping outward pressure. GONE :-)))

That was in about 1968. No after effects :-))

She now lives in a Manor House with umpteen acres and her problem now is
Badgers under the Tennis Court.

Surgical Spirit?

"I think not" :-))

Mike

Mike

On 18/12/05 16:49, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

NEVER pull it away. You can use a lighted cigarette if you have someone
around who smokes but animals hate the smell of cigarettes, sensible
creatures. We use a cotton bud dipped in meths or white spirit. The tick
drops off almost immediately. I'm told that coating the tick with olive oil
works because it suffocates them but it seems a waste of olive oil! I
haven't tried that one myself!

I have tried pulling fast and slowly, twisting, oil and cigarettes.
None of those work. If I get a tick close to home, I may try meths
and white spirit, but can't carry those on the hills if I am flying
there. I am afraid that I am not optimistic.

Perhaps if you're meeting people at the hill end of your journey, you could
ensure that they have a tiny supply with them. It really can be very small.
One dab seems to do it for the ticks our dogs have encountered. While I'm
sure Janet has extracted ticks by her method, nobody I know has succeeded in
using it and not leaving the head behind to fester. There really is a knack
to getting that right. Pack some cotton buds in your check in luggage and
you're ready to go. Don't put them in your hand luggage because, as I am
quite sure you will realise, someone will accuse you of threatening to hold
up an entire plane load of people by telling the pilot to fly you to Cuba or
you'll remove his ear wax.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

Perhaps if you're meeting people at the hill end of your journey, you could
ensure that they have a tiny supply with them. It really can be very small.

Anything up to a week later :-)

I can't swear to it, but am pretty sure that I have tried meths.
As I have just posted, nothing works once a tick is dug right in,
and most things work if it isn't. I shall give white spirit a go,
but I don't think that it will be any different.

And it is quite possible that the ticks that I couldn't get out
weren't sheep ticks - there are quite a few other species that will
bit humans. I don't have a clue what the species were in the other
continents.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower meadows"
and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read this about
ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

Also Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, typhus etc. The incidence of
Lyme Fever in the UK does indicate that it is pretty common - after
all, 99% of people are effectively not exposed to the countryside.
However, that is STILL only a 0.1% chance of being infected.

That article makes me think that BADA should really stand for the
British Association for Dramatic Anxiety.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower
meadows"
and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read
this about
ticks and the diseases they can cause...

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm

It's an increasing problem in the UK.

Also Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, typhus etc. The incidence of
Lyme Fever in the UK does indicate that it is pretty common - after
all, 99% of people are effectively not exposed to the countryside.
However, that is STILL only a 0.1% chance of being infected.

That article makes me think that BADA should really stand for the
British Association for Dramatic Anxiety.

Hear, hear!

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 12.12.2005

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:12:02 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

... I know there are some walkers on this NG and some with "wild flower meadows"
... and yet more are dog walkers so I though you would like to read this about
... ticks and the diseases they can cause...
...
... http://www.users.waitrose.com/~mickl...%20Disease.htm
...
... It's an increasing problem in the UK.
...
... (found on another Ng)

My dog gets ticks every year at some point .... I have run around the
fells through head high bracken and crossed acres of heather for the
last 20 years.
Only got a full blown tick once but the bare legs did get covered by
their first stage (larvae I think) on Jura. lots of red pinhead sized
thingys.
You just have to go with the flow and just be observant and not
paranoid ;-)
There are worst things to worry about.


Mike