Reported to with full headers.

Please follow suit. Bear in mind that this will get worse before it gets
better.

Perhaps it may be worthwhile changing uk.rec.gardening to a moderated
newsgroup? Or re-establishing it as a forum? I don't have the knowledge or
resources to do either (AFAIK).

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Crazy Dog
(Don't let the barstewards grind you down)

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:10:55 +0000, Crazy Dog wrote
(in article ):

Reported to with full headers.

Please follow suit. Bear in mind that this will get worse before it gets
better.


FWIW I haven't had any at all this time. NIN is obviously on top of the
problem and has filtered them all out. Definitely worth the 10 Euros a year!





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Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:10:55 -0000, Crazy Dog wrote:

Perhaps it may be worthwhile changing uk.rec.gardening to a moderated
newsgroup? Or re-establishing it as a forum?

Firstly what flood on the 28th? Nothing seen here just the normal quiet
traffic. I suggest you use a decent news provider who cares about the
service they give.

Switching to moderated or a slow bandwidth hungry clunky web forum would
kill the group.

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:10:55 -0000, Crazy Dog wrote:

Perhaps it may be worthwhile changing uk.rec.gardening to a moderated
newsgroup? Or re-establishing it as a forum?

Firstly what flood on the 28th? Nothing seen here just the normal quiet
traffic. I suggest you use a decent news provider who cares about the
service they give.

I, personally, prefer to use the service provided 'free' by my ISP. I do
spend quite a lot of time in newsgroups and on forums but I couldn't justify
spending money for anything I can get at no additional expense. Can you
recommend any /free/ news servers with good filtering?

Switching to moderated or a slow bandwidth hungry clunky web forum would
kill the group.

The delay in moderation and making posts public would be a problem. The
early users of usenet tended to be academics and old-world IT professionals
who were happy enough to wait for a reply. There was a very low probability
of significant problems caused by users so there was little need for
moderation to protect against malicious damage. Current users, of course,
are from a vastly wider background. A small minority are deliberately
destructive and the need for moderation is increased. The main problem is
that usenet is now used in a more 'conversational' mode than it was in its
early days - people live their lives at a faster pace. They expect their
usenet posts to appear almost instantaneously and hope for replies to appear
very soon after posting.

Forums offer, of course, many more possibilities than just usenet-style
exchanges. However, as you say, there are pitfalls. Bandwidth, the need to
be online while reading, occasional instability (usenet rarely has
problems), issues over ownership of posts (many free forum providers try to
claim they own anything posted).

My belief is that due to the amount of malicious damage caused in
unmoderated usenet groups the use of this format is reaching the end of its
life. How many potentially very helpful gardeners have been turned away from
urg due to newsgroup flooding? I'm a gardening newbie - really just taking
an active interest for the first time this year. I have a lot to learn about
gardening so I lurk in most on-topic threads that interest me. I also have
almost 30 years in the IT industry (from Speccies and Apple 2s, through PCs
and unix boxes, to ICL and IBM mainframes - including networking and
internet implementation) so it's inevitable I'll be more involved in the OT
flooding posts.

I'm also a persistent barsteward so the morons causing the flooding won't be
driving me away.

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Crazy Dog
(Being a persistent barsteward has its pitfalls too)