"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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One of my Pinguicula grandiflora (at least) has survived!

Looking at the various flora, and ignoring Utricularia, there are
4 native, ex-native or naturalised species of Pinguicula in the UK,
3 of Drosera and a couple of North American Sarracenia plus a
Darlingtonia that take lower temperatures than we get here. This
leads to three questions:

Are there any genuinely hardy southern hemisphere carnivorous
plants?

Why should Sarracenia and Darlingtonia be more tender here than
in the USA? It can't be the dislike of wet!

Why are carnivorous plants regarded as necessarily glasshouse
plants by so many writers? They aren't in Scotland!

My father has a VFT outside on a windowsill in northwest Ireland. Doing
fine.

Marcus

(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
One of my Pinguicula grandiflora (at least) has survived!

Looking at the various flora, and ignoring Utricularia, there are
4 native, ex-native or naturalised species of Pinguicula in the UK,
3 of Drosera and a couple of North American Sarracenia plus a
Darlingtonia that take lower temperatures than we get here. This
leads to three questions:

Are there any genuinely hardy southern hemisphere carnivorous
plants?
I'm sure there are, you'd have to see which species lived in the
cooler regions of S.America/New Zealand....


Why should Sarracenia and Darlingtonia be more tender here than
in the USA? It can't be the dislike of wet!
I've not experienced them being more tender. The plants I bought were
from a guy in Notts. with a huge bog garden that was flourishing. This
includes S. alata X flava and S. purpurea as well as Darlingtonia.
Most of the reports I've read of people failign with Darlingtonia seem
to point to the cause being the plants weren't kept cool enough...


Why are carnivorous plants regarded as necessarily glasshouse
plants by so many writers? They aren't in Scotland!
Possibly a throwback to the Victorian practice of keeping them in hot
houses. Perfectly valid in the case of Nepenthes.

If you're interested in further reading I'd recommend 'The Savage
Garden' by Peter D'Amato.

Alastair

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(Alastair) writes:
|
| Are there any genuinely hardy southern hemisphere carnivorous
| plants?
|
| I'm sure there are, you'd have to see which species lived in the
| cooler regions of S.America/New Zealand....

Yes. That means Stewart Island or the Southern Alps in the latter
case, of course.

| Why should Sarracenia and Darlingtonia be more tender here than
| in the USA? It can't be the dislike of wet!
|
| I've not experienced them being more tender. The plants I bought were
| from a guy in Notts. with a huge bog garden that was flourishing. This
| includes S. alata X flava and S. purpurea as well as Darlingtonia.
| Most of the reports I've read of people failign with Darlingtonia seem
| to point to the cause being the plants weren't kept cool enough...

That makes sense. But I have read in several places that they need
protection, and can't understand why.

| Why are carnivorous plants regarded as necessarily glasshouse
| plants by so many writers? They aren't in Scotland!
|
| Possibly a throwback to the Victorian practice of keeping them in hot
| houses. Perfectly valid in the case of Nepenthes.

Very likely.

| If you're interested in further reading I'd recommend 'The Savage
| Garden' by Peter D'Amato.

Thanks. I will.

Nick.

(Nick Maclaren) wrote in message ...
| If you're interested in further reading I'd recommend 'The Savage
| Garden' by Peter D'Amato.

Thanks. I will.

Nick.
You should be able to get it from Amazon....
It's fairly US-centric as the author is from California, but it does
mention climate zones and then uses these zones when it discusses
outdoor suitability of plants.

Alastair

On 7 Apr 2003 09:30:08 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

That makes sense. But I have read in several places that they need
protection, and can't understand why.

They certainly need protection from slugs ;-)

Some sarracenia are hardier than others. S. purpurea has been hardy
for me for a few years, as has flava. Darlingtonia died on it's first
winter so I haven't risked it since.