Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.
Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Thanks

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Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation
order on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the
council to trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as
they keep taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without
permission. Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out
work, is there anything I can do to complain vigorously against there
actions.

Thanks

The time to do that is before permission is granted - there should be a
notice posted outside the property at the application stage inviting
comments.

A file of dated photographs following every lopping would not go amiss if
they are breaking the rules.

BUT TPO's are there to protect the presence of trees not (generally) their
specific form and shape, a garden owner has the right to cut back any
overhanging branches on any tree not subject to TPO and there would be
nothing you could do about it. TPO protected trees can be similarly cut back
with permission from the Local Authority.

I used to have a problem with a neighbour's TPO Walnut tree overhanging my
garden and the heavy head dominating even on the south side. I asked him, he
agreed I applied and employed the tree surgeon, we shared the cost.

pk

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Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.

Have you spoken to the neighbours about your concerns?

Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Have you spoken yet to the council Aboriculturist/'tree dept' etc.?
That is obvious first stop.

AIUI, while people can cut back overhanging tree's on their property,
there is something in the law about not damaging or making the tree
unstable etc.
--
Chris French

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:56:53 -0700, beddy2005 wrote:

Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.
Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Thanks

How about maintaining the tree yourself so it doesn't get 'top heavy' and
also doesn't cause your neighbours problems?

Why should your neighbours suffer because of a tree on your property?

Without the tree preservation order they would be quite within their
rights to remove anything overhanging their property without seeking
permission; you obviously have the right to have the trimmings returned to
you if you so wish.

You may detect a certain lack of sympathy from this direction.

Cheers

Dave R

Why should your neighbours suffer because of a tree on your property?

except that if the TPO means that the OP has to keep the tree then I can see
why he wouldn't want it to either look stupid or fall on his house/head etc.
--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:56:53 -0700, beddy2005 wrote:

Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.
Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Thanks

How about maintaining the tree yourself so it doesn't get 'top heavy' and
also doesn't cause your neighbours problems?

Why should your neighbours suffer because of a tree on your property?

Without the tree preservation order they would be quite within their
rights to remove anything overhanging their property without seeking
permission; you obviously have the right to have the trimmings returned to
you if you so wish.

You may detect a certain lack of sympathy from this direction.

Cheers

Dave R


Just a cotton picking moment Dave--The chances are that the tree is worthy
of a TPO and was there long before the neighbours bought the property.
It appears that the neighbours are philistines.

Rupert wrote:
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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:56:53 -0700, beddy2005 wrote:

Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.
Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Thanks
How about maintaining the tree yourself so it doesn't get 'top heavy' and
also doesn't cause your neighbours problems?

Why should your neighbours suffer because of a tree on your property?

Without the tree preservation order they would be quite within their
rights to remove anything overhanging their property without seeking
permission; you obviously have the right to have the trimmings returned to
you if you so wish.

You may detect a certain lack of sympathy from this direction.

Cheers

Dave R


Just a cotton picking moment Dave--The chances are that the tree is worthy
of a TPO and was there long before the neighbours bought the property.
It appears that the neighbours are philistines.


Trees with TPOs can be a real problem. I have three and all you are
allowed (officially) to cut off without specific permission are small
twigs that can be pruned with secatures. One of mine appears to be
dying, this year, at not inconsiderable expense I need to pay an expert
to negotiate with the council about what I can or cannot remove. If the
council stop me from doing work that I consider necessary then if a
large branch falls causing injury or damage I hope that the courts will
look upon me with benign consideration.

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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:56:53 -0700, beddy2005 wrote:

Hi Please help

I have a oak tree in my back garden which has a tree preservation order
on it. Every five years or so the neighbours apply to the council to
trim a bit more off. It is making the tree top heavy as they keep
taking more branches off. Some times illegally and without permission.
Permission I believe has been granted again to carry out work, is there
anything I can do to complain vigorously against there actions.

Thanks
How about maintaining the tree yourself so it doesn't get 'top heavy'
and
also doesn't cause your neighbours problems?

Why should your neighbours suffer because of a tree on your property?

Without the tree preservation order they would be quite within their
rights to remove anything overhanging their property without seeking
permission; you obviously have the right to have the trimmings returned
to
you if you so wish.

You may detect a certain lack of sympathy from this direction.

Cheers

Dave R


Just a cotton picking moment Dave--The chances are that the tree is
worthy of a TPO and was there long before the neighbours bought the
property.
It appears that the neighbours are philistines.
Trees with TPOs can be a real problem. I have three and all you are
allowed (officially) to cut off without specific permission are small
twigs that can be pruned with secatures. One of mine appears to be dying,
this year, at not inconsiderable expense I need to pay an expert to
negotiate with the council about what I can or cannot remove. If the
council stop me from doing work that I consider necessary then if a large
branch falls causing injury or damage I hope that the courts will look
upon me with benign consideration.

I do sympathise having been in the same position several times. Local tree
specialist/tree surgeon negotiates with the council who are always very
helpful.
It is an expensive job particularly as you are only allowed to use a
qualified/certified tree chap and under no circumstances will they grant
permission for you to touch the tree yourself. I do know that policy varies
from council to council

thanks all for the reply a few mixed view. i just think enough is
enough and the tree has been cut too many times.

I would guess an oak has a wide and stable root system and can tolerate a
lot of messing about. We have a garden with many mature trees and they do
pose a problem.
I tend to regard trees as garden plants that have stringent pruning
requirements.-oak spreads as broad as it is tall, but in traditional
woodland management can be pruned very severely. Trees always look bad
immediately after pruning, but they tend to recover their looks.
We have cut trees quite severely to cover reasonable complaints by
neighbours. Two others, an ash and beech, capable of reaching ginormous
heights we had pruned by a tree surgeon, discusing the shape and pruning
using digital camera images.
I have a large Leylandii used by nesting bluetits and I think a goldcrest,
and it will have to be topped next winter-it's about 60ft high and 40ft
from the house. Being a conifer it will not refurnish.
Regards
David T

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thanks all for the reply a few mixed view. i just think enough is
enough and the tree has been cut too many times.