In article , Sacha
writes


You mean instead of a hob top one? I have the latter but was thinking of
getting an electric one, too, simply for the sake of space on the hob.
Everyone in the family likes something different in the way of veg and when
we're all together I cook an awful lot of veg.



Don't Sacha! You can have mine, a very three week wonder in this house
and I'll send it to you with my best wishes

Let me know if you really want it.

janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 13/9/06 21:45, in article , "Janet Tweedy"
wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes


You mean instead of a hob top one? I have the latter but was thinking of
getting an electric one, too, simply for the sake of space on the hob.
Everyone in the family likes something different in the way of veg and when
we're all together I cook an awful lot of veg.



Don't Sacha! You can have mine, a very three week wonder in this house
and I'll send it to you with my best wishes

Let me know if you really want it.

Thanks, Janet. But I think I've been educated out of it. ;-)

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

In reply to jane ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:49:41 +0100, June Hughes
wrote:

~In message , Martin
writes
~
~Which? isn't at all what it was 20 years ago.
~I'm the owner of a Nikon Coolpix 885 digital camera Which?'s 2003
~choice. It gives over emphasis to red, this was reported in an
~independent camera report [1] and is obvious as soon as you take a
few ~photos.
~After 30 years of being a member. I am no longer a Which?
subscriber. ~
~After 30 years, I am a bit of a bozo for still subscribing to it.
~Having just read the article about electric steamers properly,
instead ~of just skimming through it, I have decided not to bother
buying one, ~mainly because they are difficult to clean and life is
too short for ~that.

Sorry for popping in here a bit late, but I got given an unwanted
steamer when we were going to have a lot of folk round for a Chinese
dinner with Dim Sum, which needs steaming.
I was going to give it away again afterwards because it is a bit
bulky. My husband wouldn't let me... he thinks it's great, the
steaming trays both go in the dishwasher or take seconds to clean with
a pot brush ) and as long as you remember that the bottom tray steams
faster than the top one you're well away.
For 2 or more people it's great. But if it's just me, I resort to
stackable bamboo steamer(s) over a saucepan. And they *are* a faff to
clean and more specifically, dry. You have to leave them out for ages.

I guess it's horses for courses. The electric one works independently
of the hob so saves a ring, which also helps at busy times. That and
it has a cut-off timer so you don't overcook or forget about it and
burn the pan...

But steaming's still the best way of enjoying all the produce from the
allotment, and in dry conditions, potatoes invariably fall if you boil
them, so the steamers have been used a lot this summer.
(There, knew I'd get back on-topic for gardening!)

I thought a steamer was a metal colander on top of a saucepan. You put the
spuds in the bottom and all the other veg in the top, and optionally you can
still balance a lid on. Nearly all veg is better that way, and the spuds end
up tastier with all the drippings, then you make the gravy out of what's
left. Also it's difficult to overcook if it's turned down, so when someone
comes round and drinks a bottle of wine with you, you can have the dinner
after they've left. Which is why I'm late in today.

JMHO

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes

I thought a steamer was a metal colander on top of a saucepan. You put the
spuds in the bottom and all the other veg in the top, and optionally you can
still balance a lid on. Nearly all veg is better that way, and the spuds end
up tastier with all the drippings, then you make the gravy out of what's
left. Also it's difficult to overcook if it's turned down, so when someone
comes round and drinks a bottle of wine with you, you can have the dinner
after they've left. Which is why I'm late in today.

That is correct and that is why I can't understand why anyone would want
an electric one.
--
June Hughes

In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes

I thought a steamer was a metal colander on top of a saucepan. You
put the spuds in the bottom and all the other veg in the top, and
optionally you can still balance a lid on. Nearly all veg is better
that way, and the spuds end up tastier with all the drippings, then
you make the gravy out of what's left. Also it's difficult to
overcook if it's turned down, so when someone comes round and drinks
a bottle of wine with you, you can have the dinner after they've
left. Which is why I'm late in today.
That is correct and that is why I can't understand why anyone would
want an electric one.

Same reason why they'd want an iPod, an electric deep fat fryer, or a
gameboy. Because someone makes one.

I make chips for a treat for the kids by shallow frying them in olive oil in
a frying pan. For music I use a CD player, a radio, or a guitar. For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku or go to
the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike. The latter is most
fun.

The only electrical invention to which I have succumbed is the slo-cooker
which I can't believe I have done without for so long ... and it is easy to
wash up as the cooky bit comes out. £20. Bargain.

Technology, schmecnology. And I'm a programmer.

In message , jane
writes

But if it's just me, I resort to
stackable bamboo steamer(s) over a saucepan. And they *are* a faff to
clean and more specifically, dry. You have to leave them out for ages.

But they're cheap and the ones I had before the stainless steel ones
survived the top shelf of the dishwasher for ages - a year or more!
(After all, it's just more hot water.)

--
Klara, Gatwick basin

Uncle Marvo wrote:
For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku or go to
the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike. The latter is most
fun.

What what?!?! No gardening?!? tst tst ...

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

Uncle Marvo wrote:
For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku
or go to the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike.
The latter is most fun.

What what?!?! No gardening?!? tst tst ...

Gardening is not fun, it's bl00dy hard work :-)

No, this is "in the dark" amusement. Gardening is daytime sport.

:-)

In reply to Martin ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

We have and use an electric chip pan. The fat is always at exactly the
right temperature, no burnt oil and release of cancer causing
substances and best of all perfect chips every time and no turning the
kitchen into a flaming inferno. Chip pan fires are the most common
starters of house fires in NL, maybe Molotov cocktails are in UK ...

The problem with them I find is that you have to either use an awful lot of
fat or filter it or change it, and they never clean properly. Apart from the
ones I do for the kids, I don't cook chips, I buy mine from the chippy! Full
on Lard.

The most common cause of fires in the UK was bad wiring, I'm not sure if
that's still true. I suspect it will be smoking in bed when they ban it in
pubs :-)

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes
In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

That is correct and that is why I can't understand why anyone would
want an electric one.

Same reason why they'd want an iPod, an electric deep fat fryer, or a
gameboy. Because someone makes one.

IPods are great. You have all your music in one place; they are
portable; you can play them through a speaker system indoors, saving
looking through - in our case - thousands of cd's; their data is easily
updated.
I make chips for a treat for the kids by shallow frying them in olive oil in
a frying pan.
Deep fryers are good too. I have an ordinary one without a motor and
use olive oil in it.
For music I use a CD player, a radio, or a guitar. For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku or go to
the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike. The latter is most
fun.

Each to his own. As we all play a musical instrument in this house, we
make our own music a lot of the time. Can't understand why you would
want to take the **** our of anyone though. Life's too short but if
that's how you like to spend your time, it's up to you.
The only electrical invention to which I have succumbed is the slo-cooker
which I can't believe I have done without for so long ... and it is easy to
wash up as the cooky bit comes out. £20. Bargain.

Waste of time, IMNSHO. Better to use a modern version of a hay-box - no
cost after heating up on the stove-top then transferring to the box for
several hours.
Technology, schmecnology. And I'm a programmer.

I was a programmer in the '70's. Autocoder;Cobol;Plan. That was when
programming was exciting.
--
June Hughes

In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

IPods are great. You have all your music in one place; they are
portable; you can play them through a speaker system indoors, saving
looking through - in our case - thousands of cd's; their data is
easily updated.

See, they make one, someone buys one :-)

I make chips for a treat for the kids by shallow frying them in
olive oil in a frying pan.
Deep fryers are good too. I have an ordinary one without a motor and
use olive oil in it.

A motor? What would one have a motor for? Do they now shake the chips as
well?

For music I use a CD player, a radio, or a guitar. For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku
or go to the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike.
The latter is most fun.

Each to his own. As we all play a musical instrument in this house,
we make our own music a lot of the time. Can't understand why you
would want to take the **** our of anyone though. Life's too short
but if that's how you like to spend your time, it's up to you.

Some people watch other people having the **** taken out of them on the
telly. I don't have a telly :-)

The only electrical invention to which I have succumbed is the
slo-cooker which I can't believe I have done without for so long ...
and it is easy to wash up as the cooky bit comes out. £20. Bargain.

Waste of time, IMNSHO. Better to use a modern version of a hay-box -
no cost after heating up on the stove-top then transferring to the
box for several hours.

Yes, but I would forget and leave it on the stove. I boiled the kettle dry
yesterday, wasn't half hot when I picked it up.

Technology, schmecnology. And I'm a programmer.

I was a programmer in the '70's. Autocoder;Cobol;Plan. That was when
programming was exciting.

So was I, COBOL and PLAN too, when ICL as ICL :-) And I still am. Trouble is
people pay too much for me to do what I really want to do.

If it was still exciting I wouldn't be posting on here :-)

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes
In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

IPods are great. You have all your music in one place; they are
portable; you can play them through a speaker system indoors, saving
looking through - in our case - thousands of cd's; their data is
easily updated.

See, they make one, someone buys one :-)

Rubbish. I bought mine because three of the most important people in
the world have them, two of which were bought by me.
I make chips for a treat for the kids by shallow frying them in
olive oil in a frying pan.
Deep fryers are good too. I have an ordinary one without a motor and
use olive oil in it.

A motor? What would one have a motor for? Do they now shake the chips as
well?

They rotate the chips, I believe.
For music I use a CD player, a radio, or a guitar. For
amusement I either read the paper, do the difficult killer Su Doku
or go to the pub and take the p'ss out of solicitors and suchlike.
The latter is most fun.

Each to his own. As we all play a musical instrument in this house,
we make our own music a lot of the time. Can't understand why you
would want to take the **** our of anyone though. Life's too short
but if that's how you like to spend your time, it's up to you.

Some people watch other people having the **** taken out of them on the
telly. I don't have a telly :-)

Whatever.
The only electrical invention to which I have succumbed is the
slo-cooker which I can't believe I have done without for so long ...
and it is easy to wash up as the cooky bit comes out. £20. Bargain.

Waste of time, IMNSHO. Better to use a modern version of a hay-box -
no cost after heating up on the stove-top then transferring to the
box for several hours.

Yes, but I would forget and leave it on the stove. I boiled the kettle dry
yesterday, wasn't half hot when I picked it up.

Technology, schmecnology. And I'm a programmer.

I was a programmer in the '70's. Autocoder;Cobol;Plan. That was when
programming was exciting.

So was I, COBOL and PLAN too, when ICL as ICL :-) And I still am. Trouble is
people pay too much for me to do what I really want to do.

Yes, I remember we used PLAN on the ICL 1900 series. Autocoder was for
the IBM 1400 when computer rooms were huge; we had anti-static mats;
disk drives were the size of dustbins and the CPU looked a bit like a
music mixing console. Punchings were used as confetti when people got
married - a bit dangerous with their pointy corners. Talking of which -
the girls in the punch room prepared all the cards for our programs from
our hand-written coding sheets. COBOL was used on the Honeywell machine
as well as sometimes on the aforementioned 1900. Blimey, I must be
getting old. Long term memory is great! Now where did I put my pen?
If it was still exciting I wouldn't be posting on here :-)
G Returned to being a chartered accountant - possibly one of those
people you take the **** out of down the pub. There aren't many
accountants I like, but I'm OK)




--
June Hughes

In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

G Returned to being a chartered accountant - possibly one of those
people you take the **** out of down the pub. There aren't many
accountants I like, but I'm OK)

We haven't got any accountants down the pub.

You're OK, with your non-rotating chips :-)

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes
In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

G Returned to being a chartered accountant - possibly one of those
people you take the **** out of down the pub. There aren't many
accountants I like, but I'm OK)

We haven't got any accountants down the pub.

You're OK, with your non-rotating chips :-)

G back to work! BTW, did you ever do Christmas carols on your CPU
using punch-cards? Great fun but rather sad
--
June Hughes

In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

In message , Uncle Marvo
writes
In reply to June Hughes ) who wrote
this in , I, Marvo, say :

G Returned to being a chartered accountant - possibly one of
those people you take the **** out of down the pub. There aren't
many accountants I like, but I'm OK)

We haven't got any accountants down the pub.

You're OK, with your non-rotating chips :-)

G back to work! BTW, did you ever do Christmas carols on your CPU
using punch-cards? Great fun but rather sad

Paper tape. I was most unpopular for inserting it into a a single-processing
version of George, which naturally terminated the program which was already
running, and had been for about 10 hours.

But we did print pictures of naked ladies made up of X's and O's.