I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting them
what can I do?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but don't know
what type to use. Road bed mattress would allow the plants to grow
through. And so would barbed wire.

Any suggestions?

It's not even my garden I am guerrilla-ing it. I have something like a
tenth of a mile to look after so it could get expensive.

Road mattress (or whatever it is called -a fence lattice of something
like 4 inch squares used to reinforce roads) would just lay on or in
the soil and last a few years -long enough to establish thorny bushes.
Barbed wire would have to be supported off the ground.

Removing either for working on them could be a problem.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting them
what can I do?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but don't know
what type to use. Road bed mattress would allow the plants to grow
through. And so would barbed wire.

Any suggestions?

It's not even my garden I am guerrilla-ing it. I have something like a
tenth of a mile to look after so it could get expensive.

Road mattress (or whatever it is called -a fence lattice of something
like 4 inch squares used to reinforce roads) would just lay on or in
the soil and last a few years -long enough to establish thorny bushes.
Barbed wire would have to be supported off the ground.

Removing either for working on them could be a problem.

Hmm...

Posted to UK.sci.weather after a glitch with Google and posting limits,
forced me to sign out then back in with the gmail account. Something
tells me that some programmer at Google isn't up to scratch.

Which is more than I can say for my bloody foxes.

Sorry about that -too.

I don't know much about foxes but I know Google has various limits on
different ways of posting... so it's not a bad programming glitch but a
feature.

"cucumber" wrote in message
ps.com...
I don't know much about foxes but I know Google has various limits on
different ways of posting... so it's not a bad programming glitch but a
feature.

As a professional software developer so I can categorically say there is no
such thing as bugs or faults in programs, there are simply "undocumented
features" ;-)

"David (in Normandy)" wrote in
message ...
"cucumber" wrote in message
ps.com...
I don't know much about foxes but I know Google has various limits on
different ways of posting... so it's not a bad programming glitch but a
feature.

As a professional software developer so I can categorically say there is
no
such thing as bugs or faults in programs, there are simply "undocumented
features" ;-)


LOL!

I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting
them
what can I do?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but don't
know
what type to use. Road bed mattress would allow the plants to grow
through. And so would barbed wire.

Any suggestions?

When they were digging up my lawn, eventually in desperation I put an
electric fenc round it. Worked a treat and got them out of the habit.

BTW the local councils advice was that they are 'only' after worms in
the lawn, so 'all' you have to do is get rid of the worms. When I
pointed out that we actually need the worms they were a little
suprised. To think we actually PAY for these people by way of rates!

AWEM

Andrew Mawson wrote:

When they were digging up my lawn, eventually in desperation I put an
electric fenc round it. Worked a treat and got them out of the habit.

BTW the local councils advice was that they are 'only' after worms in
the lawn, so 'all' you have to do is get rid of the worms. When I
pointed out that we actually need the worms they were a little
suprised. To think we actually PAY for these people by way of rates!

It's a council flat I live in and the council method of taking care of
the garden was ample supplies of weedkiller around thge edges. This
went on for years and was quite successful except for the docks and
brambles.

I took it over this winter and built up the soil to somethng
approaching useful. I want to get into the soil again over the next few
yearsso the wire must be removable and replacable. I thought three or
four strands in 6 foot hurdles supported above the soil somehow or just
getting that road bed stuff and cutting it into 6 ft by 2 foot pieces
and laying it on the soil.

There are plenty of foxes locally and although I wouldn't dream of
hurting them, seeing the damage they can do to a bed is distressing.
There is nothing I can do about there access.

My problem is they are throwing the soil into the grass and I can't
rake it back without puttting weeds back with it. There is very little
soil to start with and quite frankly I would hurt the bloody things if
I could teach them a lesson like that.

A catapault with corn or something maybe. But they come at night and
they are a lot more sneaky than I.

Weatherlawyer wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting them
what can I do?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but don't know
what type to use. Road bed mattress would allow the plants to grow
through. And so would barbed wire.

Any suggestions?

It's not even my garden I am guerrilla-ing it. I have something like a
tenth of a mile to look after so it could get expensive.

Road mattress (or whatever it is called -a fence lattice of something
like 4 inch squares used to reinforce roads) would just lay on or in
the soil and last a few years -long enough to establish thorny bushes.
Barbed wire would have to be supported off the ground.

Removing either for working on them could be a problem.

Hmm...

Posted to UK.sci.weather after a glitch with Google and posting limits,
forced me to sign out then back in with the gmail account. Something
tells me that some programmer at Google isn't up to scratch.

Which is more than I can say for my bloody foxes.

Sorry about that -too.

Used to be able to buy stuff called 'Renardine'. Bloody foul smell. I
dont know what it did to the foxes but it ****ed me off. Probably
banned now like lots of useful chemicals.

"Bookworm" wrote in message
ups.com...
Weatherlawyer wrote:
Weatherlawyer wrote:
I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting
them
what can I do?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but
don't know
what type to use. Road bed mattress would allow the plants to
grow
through. And so would barbed wire.

Any suggestions?

It's not even my garden I am guerrilla-ing it. I have something
like a
tenth of a mile to look after so it could get expensive.

Road mattress (or whatever it is called -a fence lattice of
something
like 4 inch squares used to reinforce roads) would just lay on
or in
the soil and last a few years -long enough to establish thorny
bushes.
Barbed wire would have to be supported off the ground.

Removing either for working on them could be a problem.

Hmm...

Posted to UK.sci.weather after a glitch with Google and posting
limits,
forced me to sign out then back in with the gmail account.
Something
tells me that some programmer at Google isn't up to scratch.

Which is more than I can say for my bloody foxes.

Sorry about that -too.

Used to be able to buy stuff called 'Renardine'. Bloody foul smell.
I
dont know what it did to the foxes but it ****ed me off. Probably
banned now like lots of useful chemicals.


Renardine was banned relatively recently under big brother EU
legislation and it seems that there is nothing equally effective.

AWEM

Renardine was banned relatively recently under big
brother EU
legislation and it seems that there is nothing equally
effective.

If the EU has banned it, you can probably buy it in France.

Anne

"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message


Renardine was banned relatively recently under big brother EU
legislation and it seems that there is nothing equally effective.

It wasn't all that effective, didn't keep fox out of our garden and it
washed away in the rain anyway.

A high fence is the only 200% security.

Mary

On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:21:58 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:


"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message


Renardine was banned relatively recently under big brother EU
legislation and it seems that there is nothing equally effective.

It wasn't all that effective, didn't keep fox out of our garden and it
washed away in the rain anyway.

Bad for the garden and the environment anyway.

A high fence is the only 200% security.

Or a low electric (single strand) fence. Works for puddies as well.
--

Dr. John Henry "Doc" Holliday Medical Physics Sheriff
Tel 44 1382 0960111 ext. 347 Univ. of DundeeCake, Tenwells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 63440177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net Dr. John Henry "Doc" http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~Dr. John Henry "Doc" Holliday





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Malcolm Ogilvie of on the suggestion he
copied Konters book.


" You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.

Malcolm Ogilivie."

...............................................

KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. A
description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history, ecology
and behaviour.


Grebes of the World
Malcolm Ogilvie
The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed by
accounts of each of the 22 species


Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!

Rob

"Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter,


Malcolm Ogilvie"

................................................

The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup

M Ogilvie


You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the
subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been
covered very thoroughly in Konter's book.
The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace
to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving
the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn
attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late.
You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant
matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on
you.

Paul

on being attacked by trolls in URW, UBA

I have personally wrecked the ozone layer and trashed countless green
lanes. I have lost count of the number of farmers' fences weakened by my
straightlining. I have puked on country pub tables, staggered through guy
ropes, crapped in sensitive upland areas, left orange peel on Skye, fondled
the Paps of Nora, stolen bicycles, and, to my shame, once voted liberal.

It is with regret that I note that Richard, aka Big Dick, has opted for the
withdrawal method rather than continue his intercourse with this ng using
suitable protection.

--

Paul Rooney

Mary Fisher wrote:
"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
Renardine was banned relatively recently under big brother EU
legislation and it seems that there is nothing equally effective.

It wasn't all that effective, didn't keep fox out of our garden and it
washed away in the rain anyway.

A high fence is the only 200% security.


50%. They dig under it.

Mary

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting
them
what can I do?

Any hope of fencing them out so they can't get intot he garden to
begin with?

I have thought of covering the flower beds with netting but don't
know
what type to use.

Chicken netting would work but if you wanted to grow perennial
floswers it'd be a nuisance, OK for shrubs though as you could cut a
shrub sized hole and then once the planting is done jsut cover all of
the wire with a mulch.

And so would barbed wire.

Too dangerous for gardening humans.

Road mattress (or whatever it is called -a fence lattice of
something
like 4 inch squares used to reinforce roads)

I'd call that reo (short for reinforcing). Yes, it'd work but if the
groudn isn't comletely flat then you'd ahve problems shaping it.
Chicken wire or bird wire would be easier on uneven ground and you'd
only need good pliers to cut it with. For reo, you'd need to use an
angle grinder or a hacksaw to cut planting holes

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message

I have the damned things digging in my garden. Short of shooting
them
what can I do?

Any hope of fencing them out so they can't get intot he garden to
begin with?


I think it is the only option, use netting round the entire perimeter,
burying the bottom in the ground


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Jim Webster.

Proverbs 9 7&8