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I have looked at different sites on the internet but could see anything this
this plant

I saw a plant in a local shop that used to sell many plants but now the
concentrate on selling cut flowers making boquetes and green groceries etc.
So no one serving in the shop could tell me what it was.

Its a short plant, just over a foot tall. It has dark brown bottle brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge. From a distance the plant
looks like a small short bullrush but the "bottle brushes" are much more
open textured and spikey compared to the dense head of a bullrush. I have
never seen a plant like this ever before. The shop couldnt tell me any more
about the planting or care. I paid £5 for the plant in case that helps.

Jackie


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Jax wrote:
I have looked at different sites on the internet but could see anything this
this plant
I saw a plant in a local shop that used to sell many plants but now the
concentrate on selling cut flowers making boquetes and green groceries etc.
So no one serving in the shop could tell me what it was.
Its a short plant, just over a foot tall. It has dark brown bottle brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge. From a distance the plant
looks like a small short bullrush but the "bottle brushes" are much more
open textured and spikey compared to the dense head of a bullrush. I have
never seen a plant like this ever before. The shop couldnt tell me any more
about the planting or care. I paid £5 for the plant in case that helps.


The leaves, are they long single ones starting from the base of the
plant, or are they starting from various places along the main stem?

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The leaves, are they long single ones starting from the base of the
plant, or are they starting from various places along the main stem?


The leaves are single and wide ribbon like purple and greeny colour the all
seem to come from the base of the plant, the leaves are dying back now but
the "bull rush" bits are still ok and I guess could be used in some sort of
flower arranging if one wanted.

Jax



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On 15/10/06 12:26, in article , "Jax"
wrote:

I have looked at different sites on the internet but could see anything this
this plant

I saw a plant in a local shop that used to sell many plants but now the
concentrate on selling cut flowers making boquetes and green groceries etc.
So no one serving in the shop could tell me what it was.

Its a short plant, just over a foot tall. It has dark brown bottle brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge. From a distance the plant
looks like a small short bullrush but the "bottle brushes" are much more
open textured and spikey compared to the dense head of a bullrush. I have
never seen a plant like this ever before. The shop couldnt tell me any more
about the planting or care. I paid £5 for the plant in case that helps.

Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
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South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 12:26, in article ,

"Jax"
wrote:

I have looked at different sites on the internet but could see anything

this
this plant

I saw a plant in a local shop that used to sell many plants but now the
concentrate on selling cut flowers making boquetes and green groceries

etc.
So no one serving in the shop could tell me what it was.

Its a short plant, just over a foot tall. It has dark brown bottle

brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale

brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging

baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature

they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and

quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge. From a distance the

plant
looks like a small short bullrush but the "bottle brushes" are much more
open textured and spikey compared to the dense head of a bullrush. I

have
never seen a plant like this ever before. The shop couldnt tell me any

more
about the planting or care. I paid £5 for the plant in case that helps.

Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound

somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea




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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 18:12, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 12:26, in article ,

"Jax"
wrote:

snip It has dark brown bottle
brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale

brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging

baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature

they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and

quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge.

snip

Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound

somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or
some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--

If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.


Clever you. I bet that's it. Does it 'do' with you?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


On description I think it is probably pennisetum or Restio:-)
Your comment about the Pennisetum setaceum not being hardy made me wonder if
the ones I have are misnamed because they strut their stuff every year (in a
very well drained open position)?


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On 15/10/06 21:02, in article , "Rupert (W.Yorkshire)"
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 18:12, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 15/10/06 12:26, in article ,
"Jax"
wrote:

snip It has dark brown bottle
brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have pale
brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature emerging
baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they mature
they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and
quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge.

snip

Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound
somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or
some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.


Clever you. I bet that's it. Does it 'do' with you?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


On description I think it is probably pennisetum or Restio:-)
Your comment about the Pennisetum setaceum not being hardy made me wonder if
the ones I have are misnamed because they strut their stuff every year (in a
very well drained open position)?


I'll ask Ray tomorrow because he's asleep right now! But his remark to me
is "it's not hardy". Admittedly, that gives a lot of leeway as to location
and situation and he may have meant one over the other. I'll check it for
you. But if yours is hardy with you, it's pretty damned hardy!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound
somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Hi Sacha

What beautiful grasses, Penniseum setaceum rubrum, but not these. I
actually have a pot with some of this grass in but it doesnt look as nice!

The "heads" of this plant are much thicker and look as thick as the millet
stalks you buy for budgies cages. They arent floppy fronds. but upright and
slightly prickly when they are mature. Just imagine short bullrushes except
when you get close the heads arent the close dense texture of bullrush
heads. The plant seems to like sunny dryish place where I planted it. I
have never seen anything like it ever before.

Jax


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If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.

Sorry not those either.

Thanks Jax




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On 15/10/06 23:31, in article , "Jax"
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Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound
somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Hi Sacha

What beautiful grasses, Penniseum setaceum rubrum, but not these. I
actually have a pot with some of this grass in but it doesnt look as nice!

The "heads" of this plant are much thicker and look as thick as the millet
stalks you buy for budgies cages. They arent floppy fronds. but upright and
slightly prickly when they are mature. Just imagine short bullrushes except
when you get close the heads arent the close dense texture of bullrush
heads. The plant seems to like sunny dryish place where I planted it. I
have never seen anything like it ever before.

So we know/think it's almost certainly a millet, which was as my husband
suggested. I think your best bet is to ask the shop. They must know what
they order, after all!
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www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 21:02, in article , "Rupert
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 18:12, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 12:26, in article ,
"Jax"
wrote:
snip It has dark brown bottle
brush
like " spikes/flowers". The more mature fronds also seem to have
pale
brown
seeds on the outside of the "bottle brushes". The less mature
emerging
baby
bottle brushes are soft and slilky and very dark brown. As they
mature
they
fatten up and become slightly more spikey. The leaves are long and
quite
broad and are green with a slight purply tinge.
snip

Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and
Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound
somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or
some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South
African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.

Clever you. I bet that's it. Does it 'do' with you?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


On description I think it is probably pennisetum or Restio:-)
Your comment about the Pennisetum setaceum not being hardy made me wonder
if
the ones I have are misnamed because they strut their stuff every year
(in a
very well drained open position)?


I'll ask Ray tomorrow because he's asleep right now! But his remark to me
is "it's not hardy". Admittedly, that gives a lot of leeway as to
location
and situation and he may have meant one over the other. I'll check it for
you. But if yours is hardy with you, it's pretty damned hardy!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


It's only been here for 3 years so give it time to croak.:-)


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"Jax" wrote in message
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Try looking at Google images of Penniseum setaceum rubrum and Pennisetum
glaucum. We have these outside in pots and they're tall but sound
somewhat
similar to what you're describing. It might be those when young or some
kind of relative in the millet family. The two we have are not hardy.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

Hi Sacha

What beautiful grasses, Penniseum setaceum rubrum, but not these. I
actually have a pot with some of this grass in but it doesnt look as nice!

The "heads" of this plant are much thicker and look as thick as the millet
stalks you buy for budgies cages. They arent floppy fronds. but upright
and slightly prickly when they are mature. Just imagine short bullrushes
except when you get close the heads arent the close dense texture of
bullrush heads. The plant seems to like sunny dryish place where I planted
it. I have never seen anything like it ever before.
Jax


Could you take a picture of it Jax?
Send it to me if you can't get it onto teh web yourself.
Jenny


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On 15/10/06 18:12, in article , "Charlie
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 15/10/06 12:26, in article ,

"Jax"
wrote:

If its not that, try looking up images of Restios (sort of South African
cross between grass and bamboo) there are lots of different sorts.


Clever you. I bet that's it. Does it 'do' with you?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


It would if Liz liked it! e know Chris Osbourne of Churchtown nurseries
quite well, its his specialities, he has been trying to persude her for
years!

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http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
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On description I think it is probably pennisetum or Restio:-)
Your comment about the Pennisetum setaceum not being hardy made me wonder
if
the ones I have are misnamed because they strut their stuff every year
(in a
very well drained open position)?


I'll ask Ray tomorrow because he's asleep right now! But his remark to me
is "it's not hardy". Admittedly, that gives a lot of leeway as to
location
and situation and he may have meant one over the other. I'll check it for
you. But if yours is hardy with you, it's pretty damned hardy!



It's only been here for 3 years so give it time to croak.:-)

ATM he's taking a group round the garden and I quite forgot all about it.
I'll try to cudgel what's left of my brain later. But if it's survived that
long, last winter and all, it must be tough as old boots.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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