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"Martin" wrote
I think you'll find parts of the UK where the area surrounding the house is
called the Yard. Skipton area for sure and other parts of Yorkshire. I
would
suspect the NE too.


and the area behind the house is called a back yard.

I thought that was just in Coronation Street or similar! (a small enclosed
concrete/paved area, not a garden)

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Lez Pawl wrote:

its where you go for peace and quiet and not to get nagged at where you

can
sit in a shed and drink beer with other allotmentors.


I like that answer, if it wasn't so true it would be funny. I reckon thats
exactly what my Uncle needs (and maybe me shortly if my wife discovers this
post).

rob


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Hi everyone or anyone I am not sure what an allottment is in the UK - is
it
just a name for the yard around one's house? In Canada it generally means
a
portion of a communal land area where those without yards can garden.


The term "Yard" over here is used for a "Builders yard" or "Breakers yard"
or similar, somewhere commercial and usually a bit messy, we don't use the
term for our gardens around our homes which are either Front Gardens or Back
Gardens.


Doesn't that depend on which part of the country you're from. My parents
always called it the back yard although we also had a front garden.

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Martin wrote:
The Dutch put up sheds on their allotments and use them as summer houses.


In Danmark too - I've got lots of pictures of fantastic 'shed', houses
really, which I took in September, on huge allotment sites but there's
not a lot of place for growing stuff ;o)

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Following up to Martin :

The Dutch put up sheds on their allotments and use them as summer houses.


They do that in Austria too - Schräbergarten. Intended as a small patch of
green for gardenless city-dwellers, where they can get away from the
rat-race, they now have to keep up with the Joneses in the patch next door.
Who's got the biggest/best hut, how many beds(yes, really).
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Tim C. wrote:
They do that in Austria too - Schräbergarten. Intended as a small patch of
green for gardenless city-dwellers, where they can get away from the
rat-race, they now have to keep up with the Joneses in the patch next door.
Who's got the biggest/best hut, how many beds(yes, really).


In Poland they can sleep in their 'shed/house' and were given 1 acre.
Amazing. It is forbiden to sleep on our allotment - though nobody do
check.

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Martin wrote:
The Dutch propagate and grow kids on their allotments.
Subsidies on solar panel kits were terminated when it was found most kits were
used to charge batteries to run the fridge to keep the beer cool in the
allotment shed.


))) Don't you just love them. I mean, I do love you/them ...

I've been looking into getting a small turbine for our allotment
communal shed. We usually are very much in the dark before the end of
our meetings in winter but because we adjust our sight slowly to the
darkness we don't realise. Would you beleive that some have opted to
stay this way - conducting meetings in the dark because that hasn't
bothered anyone since 1906.

I'm just wondering if this kind of activities are allowed ;o)

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Subsidies on solar panel kits were terminated when it was found most kits
were
used to charge batteries to run the fridge to keep the beer cool in the
allotment shed.


My uncle made a very effective wind generator using an old factory venting
fan turning a car alternator to keep a deep cycle batter charged in an
isolated barn on his Yorkshire smallholding. The only new component was a
decent battery once he proved the system worked using an old one. Even the
12 volt bulbs and holders came from cars in a scrap yard. The end result was
a switchable lighting throughout and now an old caravan fridge keeps the
beer & bait chilled.

Mike (the new boy)


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"Robbo" wrote in message
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"judith lea" wrote in message
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clarissa wrote:
Hi everyone or anyone I am not sure what an allottment is in the UK -

is
it
just a name for the yard around one's house? In Canada it generally
means a
portion of a communal land area where those without yards can garden.
Thanks for your help. Jean Vancouver BC Canada


It's a piece of land that you can rent on an annual basis, usually
through your local council


Small correction....



No correction is called for. As Judith didn't actually specify what the
the allotment could, or could not be, used for.


It's a piece of land to GROW food or plants on that you can rent on an
annual basis, usually through your local council with many bylaws and
usually rules for it's upkeep.



Correction.

It's a piece of land which can be put to any number of leisure uses
depending on where you happen to live

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http://www.spennymoortowncouncil.gov...04Mins2006.pdf
CLYDE TERRACE ALLOTMENTS ....requesting permission to erect a Pigeon
Loft on Allotment No.24 of the above site. The Association has no
objections to this application. ...

quote

Sadly, pigeon lofts on allotments in some places have been subject to
the attentions of vandals in recent years.


michael adams

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Martin wrote:
The Dutch put up sheds on their allotments and use them as summer houses.


In Danmark too - I've got lots of pictures of fantastic 'shed', houses
really, which I took in September, on huge allotment sites but there's
not a lot of place for growing stuff ;o)


These are fun too :~))
The Sheds of Murmansk: http://tinyurl.com/vkyn5
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JennyC wrote:
These are fun too :~))
The Sheds of Murmansk: http://tinyurl.com/vkyn5


#... what's he building in there ...#

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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:29:35 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
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"Trevor" wrote in message
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"clarissa" wrote
Hi everyone or anyone I am not sure what an allottment is in the UK -
is it
just a name for the yard around one's house? In Canada it generally
means a
portion of a communal land area where those without yards can garden.
Thanks for your help. Jean Vancouver BC Canada

It's a field (Allotment site) split up into individual Allotment plots
of
usually 10 sq Rods (Poles or Perches) a Rod is an old measurement and is
5.5yds. Some sites also have half or quarter plots for rent and some
sites that are a strange shape have strange shaped/sized plots too.
So a normal plot is 302.5 sq yards or say 250 sq metres.
Lately some Councils have started to talk in "Metric Lettings" which is
a
politically correct term for Rods. 1 Rod is roughly equal to 5 metres.
Most are rented out by the local Council on an annual basis usually with
the stipulation that they are mainly used for the growing of food crops
(vegetables and fruit) although I have seen them used for flowers and
nothing has been said. In other parts of the country they even keep
birds
(Chickens and pigeons) and animals (Rabbits) on their plots.
The cost varies greatly from Council to Council, our's here in Runnymede
charges £80+ pa. the highest I've heard of is £100+ pa nearer Central
London, yet others just charge only a few pounds and provide free
manure.
(I wish!)

The term "Yard" over here is used for a "Builders yard" or "Breakers
yard" or similar, somewhere commercial and usually a bit messy, we don't
use the term for our gardens around our homes which are either Front
Gardens or Back Gardens.



I think you'll find parts of the UK where the area surrounding the house
is called the Yard. Skipton area for sure and other parts of Yorkshire. I
would suspect the NE too.


But that is usually a concreted over area, where the lavatory used to be
sited.


Paved.

I think the standard British allotment size has something to do with the
length of a cricket pitch....22 yards is it?

I've forgotten.....


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Lez Pawl wrote:

its where you go for peace and quiet and not to get nagged at where you can
sit in a shed and drink beer with other allotmentors.

well I'd like to agree with that except my hussband insisits on coming
with me )
LW

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JennyC wrote:
These are fun too :~))
The Sheds of Murmansk: http://tinyurl.com/vkyn5


#... what's he building in there ...#



#.......He has subscriptions to those Magazines......#

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"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Robbo" wrote in message
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"judith lea" wrote in message
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clarissa wrote:
Hi everyone or anyone I am not sure what an allottment is in the UK -

is
it
just a name for the yard around one's house? In Canada it generally
means a
portion of a communal land area where those without yards can garden.
Thanks for your help. Jean Vancouver BC Canada

It's a piece of land that you can rent on an annual basis, usually
through your local council


Small correction....



No correction is called for. As Judith didn't actually specify what the
the allotment could, or could not be, used for.


It's a piece of land to GROW food or plants on that you can rent on an
annual basis, usually through your local council with many bylaws and
usually rules for it's upkeep.



Correction.

It's a piece of land which can be put to any number of leisure uses
depending on where you happen to live

quote

http://www.spennymoortowncouncil.gov...04Mins2006.pdf
CLYDE TERRACE ALLOTMENTS ....requesting permission to erect a Pigeon
Loft on Allotment No.24 of the above site. The Association has no
objections to this application. ...

quote

Sadly, pigeon lofts on allotments in some places have been subject to
the attentions of vandals in recent years.


Just don't tell the"Welfare State" of there will be 20 Kosovans or
Lithuanians living in an allotment shed claiming even MORE benefit!

;-^


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