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I am battling spider mites on my houseplants. For the moment they seem
to have receded - last week I moved them out on the balcony (to lower
temperature and extend the reproduction cycle) and sprayed twice (3
days interval) with a different systemic insecticide (imidaclopride &
dicofol).

Ocasionally, I can still see one or two moving up or down a blade.

Can you advise me what to do to get rid of them?

Sincerely,
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I am battling spider mites on my houseplants. For the moment they seem
to have receded - last week I moved them out on the balcony (to lower
temperature and extend the reproduction cycle) and sprayed twice (3
days interval) with a different systemic insecticide (imidaclopride &
dicofol).

Ocasionally, I can still see one or two moving up or down a blade.

Can you advise me what to do to get rid of them?


Are you sure it's Red Spider Mite as they are just about too small to see
with the naked eye.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Spider_mite

They like dry conditions so spraying with water every day helps, make sure
you spray the undersides of the leaves too. Keeping the plants in more moist
conditions helps too.

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"GH" wrote ...
I am battling spider mites on my houseplants. For the moment they seem
to have receded - last week I moved them out on the balcony (to lower
temperature and extend the reproduction cycle) and sprayed twice (3
days interval) with a different systemic insecticide (imidaclopride &
dicofol).

Ocasionally, I can still see one or two moving up or down a blade.

Can you advise me what to do to get rid of them?


Are you sure it's Red Spider Mite as they are just about too small to see
with the naked eye.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Spider_mite


I can see them ;-)

They like dry conditions so spraying with water every day helps, make sure
you spray the undersides of the leaves too. Keeping the plants in more moist
conditions helps too.

Wiping the underside of the leaves with a damp tissue will remove quit a
few.

If they prove to be resistant to your available chemicals, there are
biological controls. Probably difficult to remove every last one with
either chemicals or predators, so Bob's cultivation advice is important.
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I am battling spider mites on my houseplants. For the moment they
seem
to have receded - last week I moved them out on the balcony (to
lower
temperature and extend the reproduction cycle) and sprayed twice (3
days interval) with a different systemic insecticide (imidaclopride
&
dicofol).

Ocasionally, I can still see one or two moving up or down a blade.

Can you advise me what to do to get rid of them?

Imidacloprid will almost certainly see them off, but it's systemic so
don't expect a quick knock down, it needs time to be absorbed into the
plant and circulated through its tissues. Then more time for the mites
to suck up a lethal dose and more time for toxin to work.
The others have also given you some good cultural and identification
advice.
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Thank you Sacha, it would have been a good idea. I tried to get the
phytoseiulus persimilis and they came all dead in the package through
the post.

Besides now I had I already sprayed with Imidacloprid and Dicofol and
I'm afraid now it's may be too late to use organic controls.

Now, following Kay's advice I wash the plants leaves with a solution of
dishwashing liquid and water every other day and I spray with
insecticide once a week. They have reduced in numbers but they are
still there I think... Some leaves still show signs of attack.
Maybe I should spray the outside of the pots and the area around them
as well...

Humidity and cold weather have reduced their number considerably. A big
thank you, Bob, for your help!

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There was no warantee; but I'm only hoping to get rid of the mites now.
Do you know if the advice to spray with a fish meal or kelp solution is
of any value?

If I change the earth, will I be able to use Phytoseiulus (if nothing
else works)?

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There was no warantee; but I'm only hoping to get rid of the mites now.
Do you know if the advice to spray with a fish meal or kelp solution is
of any value?


I've just talked to my husband about this and he knows nothing about the
fish meal or kelp idea. He says that some years ago they used to spray
plants with liquid seaweed which is probably the same as kelp. The general
opinion was that it didn't cure the problem but controlled it to some
extent. As Bob has said, the spider mite thrives on dry, warm conditions.

If I change the earth, will I be able to use Phytoseiulus (if nothing
else works)?

Not if the chemical is still on the plant. Some are very persistent and
last for several weeks. Ray queries if the Phytoseilius you got were indeed
dead. Ours come in small plastic bottles and we shake them over the plants.
It is almost impossible to detect life or movement without a magnifying
glass and they look like large grains of white pepper with a salmony
coloured tinge to them. I'm just a bit concerned that you might have had
viable bio controls that you thought were dead and that the chemical spray
you then used killed them off!
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GH writes
There was no warantee; but I'm only hoping to get rid of the mites now.
Do you know if the advice to spray with a fish meal or kelp solution is
of any value?

If I change the earth, will I be able to use Phytoseiulus (if nothing
else works)?

No, the systemic insecticide you have used will be in the plant rather
than the soil. You'll be able to use biological controls eventually, not
sure how long you need to wait.

I'm not sure how well the biological controls work on the domestic scale
- I suspect they will give something like a 99% clearance, which is OK
when you're using them routinely every year in a greenhouse, but the 1%
(or whatever) that they miss is enough to start up a new infestation.
--
Kay


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