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I understand that you must have sharp sand/grit - builders sand does not
help.

cheers

Davy

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Order a load of sand to add to the rest of the soil improvement.


Any idea of how much sand to the square metre?


Sorry, I don't. I don't buy things that way, I just go to the
landscape yard and buy one or two scoops of the bucket on the tractor
at a time. I think that one scoop is a sq metre.

If nothing else has worked for you, it might be a 'suck it and see'
situation. Given that the two opposing ends of the soil scale are
clay and sand then the amendment for both those ends is to apply the
opposite. I think I'd rather be adding sand to clay than to be mixing
up sloppy buckets of clay to pour onto sand.




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Farm1 wrote:
Any idea of how much sand to the square metre?


Sorry, I don't. I don't buy things that way, I just go to the
landscape yard and buy one or two scoops of the bucket on the tractor
at a time. I think that one scoop is a sq metre.

If nothing else has worked for you, it might be a 'suck it and see'
situation. Given that the two opposing ends of the soil scale are
clay and sand then the amendment for both those ends is to apply the
opposite. I think I'd rather be adding sand to clay than to be mixing
up sloppy buckets of clay to pour onto sand.


I agree. I think that I will order a lorry load and spread it all over
and let the worms take it down before Spring. I'll post in the Summer
if things have improved. Many thanks.

Judith at Home in England

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g'day tina,

sounds like a good cause to use raised garden beds?

anyhow have a look on our site see how we do them might be some ideas
there for you?

http://www.lensgarden.com.au/

too easy

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:57:30 GMT, gardenlen
wrote:

I may have the possibility of borrowing a small digger so I think
before going down the raised beds route (which as its at the front of
the house I'd rather not do, unless I have to) I am going to try and
dig down a bit & posibly put some sort of herringbone drain in, then
chuck the gravel back in that I have already removed. A local farmer
has offered me as much chicken & or horse manure that i can take, so
plan to mix that in with the compost & clay (some, not all).

When people talk about GYPSUM as being a clay breaker, will it be ok
to use the type of bags of plaster that they sell at builders
merchants (it does say on the side of the bag contains gypsum) the
bag i looked at said finnish plaster (I think) or does it have to be
gypsum (plaster of paris etc)?

p.s. Thanks for all your help.
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When people talk about GYPSUM as being a clay breaker, will it be ok
to use the type of bags of plaster that they sell at builders
merchants (it does say on the side of the bag contains gypsum) the
bag i looked at said finnish plaster (I think) or does it have to be
gypsum (plaster of paris etc)?


I'm fairly sure that gypsum is a major ingredient in the plaster
lining boards used in modern housing, so assume that the same would
apply to a bag of powder called "finnish plaster" (or could it be
"finish plaster)?????? Wouldn't it be possible in the UK to buy bags
of gypsum at garden centres and know you have the right thing for
garden use? If not, you may need to look closely at the bags of
"Finnish Plaster" to see if there is an ingredient list on the bag.




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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
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"tina" wrote in message

When people talk about GYPSUM as being a clay breaker, will it be ok
to use the type of bags of plaster that they sell at builders
merchants (it does say on the side of the bag contains gypsum) the
bag i looked at said finnish plaster (I think) or does it have to be
gypsum (plaster of paris etc)?


I'm fairly sure that gypsum is a major ingredient in the plaster
lining boards used in modern housing, so assume that the same would
apply to a bag of powder called "finnish plaster" (or could it be
"finish plaster)?????? Wouldn't it be possible in the UK to buy bags
of gypsum at garden centres and know you have the right thing for
garden use? If not, you may need to look closely at the bags of
"Finnish Plaster" to see if there is an ingredient list on the bag.


used plaster board is being recycled to salvage gypsum in it for
agricultural use.

rob


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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
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"tina" wrote in message

When people talk about GYPSUM as being a clay breaker, will it be ok
to use the type of bags of plaster that they sell at builders
merchants (it does say on the side of the bag contains gypsum) the
bag i looked at said finnish plaster (I think) or does it have to be
gypsum (plaster of paris etc)?


I'm fairly sure that gypsum is a major ingredient in the plaster
lining boards used in modern housing, so assume that the same would
apply to a bag of powder called "finnish plaster" (or could it be
"finish plaster)?????? Wouldn't it be possible in the UK to buy bags
of gypsum at garden centres and know you have the right thing for
garden use? If not, you may need to look closely at the bags of
"Finnish Plaster" to see if there is an ingredient list on the bag.


used plaster board is being recycled to salvage gypsum in it for
agricultural use.

rob


http://www.rebri.org.nz/links/guidel...ERBOARD_ct.pdf
http://www.gypsumrecycling.biz/?gcli...FR8eYQod-EL72w

rob


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