Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would
tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100%
for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4
drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile
allotment shed!).

--
Regards
Bob H

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would
tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100%
for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4
drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile
allotment shed!).


Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle around
a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me off that
the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to walkers. They
already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against a miniscule few
hundred miles of vehicle rights of way.

Mike

Muddymike wrote:
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...
Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would
tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100%
for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4
drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile
allotment shed!).


Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle around
a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me off that
the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to walkers. They
already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against a miniscule few
hundred miles of vehicle rights of way.

Mike



Whilst OT I'd like to add this...

I had a problem with a group of Ramblers in Cheshire committing what can
only be described as vandalism.

I was in one of my woods repairing a fence and was accosted by a group
purporting to be Ramblers. Harmless enough thinks I. How wrong! An
elderly guy started laying into me about driving my 4x4 on public land.
How wrong, again! My land, public right of way to cross from one side to
the other without stopping or deviating from the marked path. Anyway, he
informed me that I was breaking the law by blocking a badger sett and he
wilfully set about removing the work I had done. Knowing a bit about
badgers I have badger gates on the permanent runs but where the young
boars dig rutting holes I repair the fences. Off they toddle and I make
good the rather pathetic attempt at damaging the fence and drive further
along the track to find the same old guy trying to dislodge an old and
albeit mouldy stile. There is no fence and for the last 25 years folk
have walked around it. Fair play though, they were keeping to the edge
of the wood and these were only the rantings of an old gent who felt he
had a point to prove to his younger wards. Anyway, they break out of the
tree line and proceed to meander across one of my cropped fields
ignoring the path that is waymarked and kept free from crop for them. I
follow in my pickup and get a tirade of abuse for following them and
they threaten to report me to the landowner. "I am he" says I. And they
scuttle off! I checked the Ramblers Association web site as I really
wanted to register my displeasure at this all. And do you know what?

The Ramblers Association advocates the deliberate ignorance of Public
Rights of Way due to the fact that it is unlikely that a land owner will
be able to prosecute anyway. How irresponsible is that? I really
expected a guiding paragraph to all Ramblers along the lines of please
keep the landowners happy since despite the freedom to roam act, there
are bits that plainly belong to somebody else!!!

I generally find the quad bikers and 4x4 drivers to be more friendly
than the Ramblers and the Horsey set. Yes there are ruts but a few weeks
into winter and after a spot of erosion and the ground is flat again.
The quad bikers in my area even offer to make good any real damage they do.

Simon

I had a problem with a group of Ramblers in Cheshire committing what can
only be described as vandalism.

Simon

Some "ramblers" decided the style between the busy main road and a public
footpath over one of my fathers fields was too high so they removed a couple
of bars. The first we knew of this was when an anxious motorist knocked on
the door to say he had just narrowly escaped a head on collision with a cow
as he drove around a blind bend - our cows had escaped over what remained of
the style and were strolling along the main road! Lucky nobody was killed!

--
David

On 10 May, 21:37, "David \(Normandy\)"
wrote:
Some "ramblers" decided the style between the busy main road and a public
footpath over one of my fathers fields was too high so they removed a couple
of bars. The first we knew of this was when an anxious motorist knocked on
the door to say he had just narrowly escaped a head on collision with a cow
as he drove around a blind bend - our cows had escaped over what remained of
the style and were strolling along the main road! Lucky nobody was killed!

Is this a rehearsal for 'Grumpy Old Men'?! I'm kidding.

I've walked with my family for over 20 years and you know I've never
ever met any Ramblers, or I might have but never really knew they
were. What do they look like? On saturday we did a fantastic walk
between Grasmere and Rydal Water, we started at Elterwater through Low
Wood, Red Bank, Loughrigg Cave and fell, Lanty Scar, down to Loughrigg
tarn, got lost for about an hour and ended at Skelwith Bridge. But a
pub waited for us at 7.30 with a sunset for desert. What a beautiful
Cumbria it was. Don't blame us for wanting to walk. It's so beautiful.

This is my favourite photo of hundreds I've taken, it was a hard
choice.

http://cjoint.com/?fkxx23koSg

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I
would tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be
100% for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like
4x4 drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our
mobile allotment shed!).


Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle
around a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me
off that the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to
walkers. They already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths against
a miniscule few hundred miles of vehicle rights of way.

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside, and
never, ever stop to look at anything around them!



Mike

On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:43:38 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote:

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside, and
never, ever stop to look at anything around them!

rubbish.
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

"The Reid" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:43:38 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote:

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside,
and
never, ever stop to look at anything around them!

rubbish.

You can be absolutely certain about this, althought you have not met any who
do behave in this fashion?

"Alan Holmes" wrote

"Muddymike" wrote in message

Being both a walker and a 4X4 owner who occasionally enjoys a trundle
around a few high level unsurfaced county roads and BOAT's I does **** me
off that the ramblers association seems to want all lanes restricted to
walkers. They already enjoy thousands of miles of public footpaths
against a miniscule few hundred miles of vehicle rights of way.

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside,
and never, ever stop to look at anything around them!

Well the wife and I certainly do not walk slowly but all the gangs of
Ramblers we have met have been strolling and chatting and seemingly not at
all interested in what is around them such that I've had to politely raise
my voice on more than one occasion to get past them as they wandered all
over the track with their walking poles flailing.
I can't understand why anyone would want to walk in the countryside but
frighten away any wildlife there may be nearby.
We have stumbled upon deer of various species as close as 10ft before they
took fright just be being quiet.

--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK

On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:48:31 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

but all the gangs of
Ramblers we have met have been strolling and chatting and seemingly not at
all interested in what is around them

now that does ring true, the RA social walking group, more interested
in chatting than the countryside, many RA members try them just
once....
I do sometimes walk with a couple of friends who only do it as
exercise and just want to talk about nothing for hours. Its amazing
how long they will go without an answer or comment.

such that I've had to politely raise
my voice on more than one occasion to get past them as they wandered all
over the track with their walking poles flailing.

I've got nothing against poles, save the knees
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:43:38 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote:

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside, and
never, ever stop to look at anything around them!

rubbish, Alan! Loads of RA members are interested in nature and walk
fairly fast, its perfectly possible to take stuff in and get from A to
B. My pace is governed by either the need to get to the summit and
back beofre dark or to the pub before it closes!
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

"The Reid" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:43:38 GMT, "Alan Holmes"
wrote:

The Ramblers Assoc is missnamed, it should really be called The High Speed
Walkers Assoc, as they do NOT 'ramble' they run through the countryside,
and
never, ever stop to look at anything around them!

rubbish, Alan! Loads of RA members are interested in nature and walk
fairly fast, its perfectly possible to take stuff in and get from A to
B. My pace is governed by either the need to get to the summit and
back beofre dark or to the pub before it closes!

I did go on a RA walk once, but it was impossible to keep up with them and
the leaders were totally unconcerned that they were leaving people behind
who may not have known how to get back to the start.

Other times I have come across them, they have been walking VERY quickly and
taking absolutely no notice of what was happening around them.

Perhaps the group you go with are differnet, but those I have been in touch
with are extreemly selfish.

On Thu, 10 May 2007 16:58:01 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would
tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100%
for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4
drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile
allotment shed!).

One as short as that? I've a 110 of the same year :-)

Seriously, these geriatric commies think they own the countryside to
the exclusion of everyone else.

Since the "right to roam" legislation I think they are seem as a band
of militants and their communist background, of which few know about,
adds to that image.

Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

I have a mobile allotment shed - a p reg mondeo I bought for £50 last week -
even had half a tank of diesel, a few months mot and tax - bargain.
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

Angus wrote ...
Ramblers origins come from Manchester Communists.

Have you ever heard of a commie that can keep his/her mouth shut?

They're a blight on the countryside.

I must admit that when I'm out for a quiet walk in the Surrey Hills which
includes watching wildlife etc and come across the usual platoon of
chattering Ramblers which I can usually hear from half a mile away I would
tend to agree with you.
I also don't agree with their philosophy that the countryside must be 100%
for them alone and that they won't share it with anybody else, like 4x4
drivers. But then I also drive a mud covered 1986 Landrover 90 (our mobile
allotment shed!).

--
Regards
Bob H