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Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for harvesting
during late Winter and Spring?

As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh greens
would be nice at that time of the year.

David.



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In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote this in
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Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
harvesting during late Winter and Spring?

As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
greens would be nice at that time of the year.

Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember whether
it's the "long" type, but Google will know.

Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.


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Uncle Marvo wrote:
: In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: this in , I, Marvo, say :
:
:: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
:: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
::
:: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
:: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
::
: Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
:
: Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.

Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet


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"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
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Uncle Marvo wrote:
: In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: this in , I, Marvo, say :
:
:: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
:: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
::
:: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
:: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
::
: Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
:
: Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.

Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet



Is kale edible? I was brought up on a farm where kale was cattle fodder. It
used to look spectacular in the field - a forest of the stuff taller than
me. The cows used to relish the stuff though.

I've just planted some green broccoli seed but am new to planting this - I
tried last year and it sort of ran to seed and didn't form tight heads. Is
green broccoli Winter hardy or is that jus the purple that will survive over
Winter?

Is leaf beet also called spinach? I used to grow the false New Zealand stuff
back in England but can't find any seed for it here. That used to make a
nice meal or fifty but the Mrs is not keen on it. I tried growing the proper
spinach but it didn't do very well, slow to grow and quick to run to seed
compared to the 'false' stuff.

David.


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Is leaf beet also called spinach? I used to grow the false New Zealand stuff
back in England but can't find any seed for it here.


I buy my spinach seeds in France, I think they have a larger variety
there than in England. I know you too are in France so what shops
have you got near you that might sell seeds? If there is a problem I
can send you some.

Judith




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On Jun 27, 4:30 pm, "David \(Normandy\)"
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Is leaf beet also called spinach? I used to grow the false New Zealand
stuff
back in England but can't find any seed for it here.


I buy my spinach seeds in France, I think they have a larger variety
there than in England. I know you too are in France so what shops
have you got near you that might sell seeds? If there is a problem I
can send you some.

Judith


Judith, thanks for the offer but there are a number of garden centres handy
including L'eclerc, Pointe Verte etc and all have a good selection of seeds.
The one I tried growing was "Epinard Geant d'Hiver", I planted seeds last
Autumn but it grew really slowly. In fact I dug it in a few weeks ago at
only two or three inches high.

Can you recommend a variety?

On the subject of poorly performing veg I also planted some Mache seeds a
couple of months ago and they are still only around 1 inch high and 2 inches
across. I planted lettuce and beetroot at the same time and they are either
large or eaten now!

David.


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In article , David (Normandy)
writes

"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
...
Uncle Marvo wrote:
: In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: this in , I, Marvo, say :
:
:: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
:: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
::
:: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
:: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
::
: Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
:
: Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.

Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet



Is kale edible?


Is it ever. Flash fry it when it is less than 5 minutes off the plant
in the bacon fat for your Sunday morning fry up and then ask the
question again.

Bung a load of salt on it and a bit of tempura batter and use olive oil
and tell the tree huggers it is seaweed, half of them would not know the
difference. Better still to leave most of the salt out and enjoy its
rich flavour for what it is.

Some even claim it makes better bubble than sprouts but they never give
their real names.

At a push you could also go traditional and bung it in with the taters
and have them boiled with a nice steak and mushroom pudding and a decent
serving of gravy made from the water it was cooked in.

For novelty value, at the end of the kale season, you can collect the
flowing shoots just before they open and tell you customers they are
miniature broccoli. You need lots of plants for this one though.

Ultimately though any Brassica should be eaten as an accompaniment to
pigeon, for no other reason than the irony.



--
steve auvache
Sunny Essex
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"steve auvache" wrote in message
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In article , David (Normandy)
writes

"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
.. .
Uncle Marvo wrote:
: In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: this in , I, Marvo, say :
:
:: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
:: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
::
:: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
:: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
::
: Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
:
: Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.

Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet



Is kale edible?


Is it ever. Flash fry it when it is less than 5 minutes off the plant
in the bacon fat for your Sunday morning fry up and then ask the
question again.

Bung a load of salt on it and a bit of tempura batter and use olive oil
and tell the tree huggers it is seaweed, half of them would not know the
difference. Better still to leave most of the salt out and enjoy its
rich flavour for what it is.

Some even claim it makes better bubble than sprouts but they never give
their real names.

At a push you could also go traditional and bung it in with the taters
and have them boiled with a nice steak and mushroom pudding and a decent
serving of gravy made from the water it was cooked in.

For novelty value, at the end of the kale season, you can collect the
flowing shoots just before they open and tell you customers they are
miniature broccoli. You need lots of plants for this one though.

Ultimately though any Brassica should be eaten as an accompaniment to
pigeon, for no other reason than the irony.



--
steve auvache
Sunny Essex


You've sold it! I'll see if I can get some seeds.
Your last paragraph made me chuckle - many moons ago I had a veg plot at my
father's farm, but all my greens got eaten by wood pigeons. So I staked out
the garden early one morning brandishing a shot gun and caught the blighters
in the act. I too enjoyed the irony. They ate my greens so I ate them!

David.


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Is kale edible?


Is it ever. Flash fry it when it is less than 5 minutes off the plant
in the bacon fat for your Sunday morning fry up and then ask the
question again.

Bung a load of salt on it and a bit of tempura batter and use olive oil
and tell the tree huggers it is seaweed, half of them would not know the
difference. Better still to leave most of the salt out and enjoy its
rich flavour for what it is.

Some even claim it makes better bubble than sprouts but they never give
their real names.

At a push you could also go traditional and bung it in with the taters
and have them boiled with a nice steak and mushroom pudding and a decent
serving of gravy made from the water it was cooked in.

For novelty value, at the end of the kale season, you can collect the
flowing shoots just before they open and tell you customers they are
miniature broccoli. You need lots of plants for this one though.

Ultimately though any Brassica should be eaten as an accompaniment to
pigeon, for no other reason than the irony.


I agree with everything you say. I love kale in all the varieties I've ever
tasted.

I also love pigeon.

Mary





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"David (Normandy)" writes


Is kale edible?


Yes.


Is leaf beet also called spinach?


No, I don't think so - it's used like spinach but is different. Spinach
is Spinacea, I'm pretty sure leaf beet is a Beta.

This link gives a lot of vegetable names - the latin names but also a
lot of the different european names - thanks! I wouldn't have found it
without your question!
http://www.hri.ac.uk/enveg/data/raw/vegdata.htm

I used to grow the false New Zealand stuff
back in England but can't find any seed for it here. That used to make a
nice meal or fifty but the Mrs is not keen on it. I tried growing the proper
spinach but it didn't do very well, slow to grow and quick to run to seed
compared to the 'false' stuff.

Do you also grow swiss chard, ruby chard etc?
--
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"David (Normandy)" wrote in message
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:
: "Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
: ...
: Uncle Marvo wrote:
: : In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: : this in , I, Marvo, say :
: :
: :: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
: :: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
: ::
: :: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
: :: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
: ::
: : Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: : whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
: :
: : Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.
:
: Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet
:
:
:
: Is kale edible? I was brought up on a farm where kale was cattle fodder.
It
: used to look spectacular in the field - a forest of the stuff taller than
: me. The cows used to relish the stuff though.

Well the cows have it, it's delicious and strong flavoured and doesn't get
attacked by pests quite so much


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"Robert (Plymouth)" wrote in message
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Uncle Marvo wrote:
: In reply to David (Normandy) ) who wrote
: this in , I, Marvo, say :
:
:: Has anyone any suggestions for vegetables that can be planted for
:: harvesting during late Winter and Spring?
::
:: As much as I like leeks and Spring greens a bit more variety of fresh
:: greens would be nice at that time of the year.
::
: Broad beans, one variety of them comes in spring. I can't remember
: whether it's the "long" type, but Google will know.
:
: Broad beans have got to be my favourite veg.

Kale, purple sprouting broccolli and leaf beet


And chard. It also looks spectacular.

Mary




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On Jun 27, 5:29 pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:

And chard. It also looks spectacular.

I don't think I have eaten chard, what does it resemble, in taste?

Judith



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