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Tomatoes, falling off
I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse.
I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter. |
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Tomatoes, falling off
"Peter C" wrote in message oups.com... I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse. I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter. No. My greenhouse tomatoes have good fruits but they're still green. My outdoor tomatoes have few very green fruits. Neighbour has four tomato plants crowded into a grow bag and housed in a plastic 'greenhouse' which is in effect a sealed plastic bag. He's gone on holiday and the tomatoes' environment is more than damp yet some leaves are browning. There's no ventilation, he hasn't done any removal of side shoots or leaves, it's just a tangle. Yet some of his Sungold ftuit (I gave him the seedlings) are ready to pick. Hrumph. Mary |
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Tomatoes, falling off
On Jul 26, 6:34 pm, Peter C wrote:
I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse. I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter this happened to us once last year. Ours are grown in the greenhouse in huge pots, We think it is caused by underwatering and then overwatering. We deduced this by going away overnight during a hot spell, when we returned the leaves were a bit limp so I gave them copious amounts of water. They started to ripen and then fell off, not all just some, exactly with the same black bit of rot at the stalk. The ones that did not fall off were outside ones. This year I haven't had a red tomato yet although the crop is big and healthy, usually I have made pickle by now. Judith |
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Tomatoes, falling off
On 26 Jul, 20:44, "
wrote: On Jul 26, 6:34 pm, Peter C wrote: I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse. I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter this happened to us once last year. Ours are grown in the greenhouse in huge pots, We think it is caused by underwatering and then overwatering. We deduced this by going away overnight during a hot spell, when we returned the leaves were a bit limp so I gave them copious amounts of water. They started to ripen and then fell off, not all just some, exactly with the same black bit of rot at the stalk. The ones that did not fall off were outside ones. This year I haven't had a red tomato yet although the crop is big and healthy, usually I have made pickle by now. Judith Thank you Judith, I am not aware I have neglected watering but on the other hand I may have done due to the change in weather from am to pm. This year one of my plants must have at least 50 mature tomatoes on , I have to tie them up. I have already had about 3 lbs off, delicious. Peter. |
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Tomatoes, falling off
On 27 Jul, 10:52, Sacha wrote:
On 26/7/07 23:47, in article . com, "Peter C" wrote: On 26 Jul, 20:44, " wrote: On Jul 26, 6:34 pm, Peter C wrote: I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse. I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter this happened to us once last year. Ours are grown in the greenhouse in huge pots, We think it is caused by underwatering and then overwatering. We deduced this by going away overnight during a hot spell, when we returned the leaves were a bit limp so I gave them copious amounts of water. They started to ripen and then fell off, not all just some, exactly with the same black bit of rot at the stalk. The ones that did not fall off were outside ones. This year I haven't had a red tomato yet although the crop is big and healthy, usually I have made pickle by now. Judith Thank you Judith, I am not aware I have neglected watering but on the other hand I may have done due to the change in weather from am to pm. This year one of my plants must have at least 50 mature tomatoes on , I have to tie them up. I have already had about 3 lbs off, delicious. Peter. Peter, I asked Ray about this. He used to grow toms commercially. He says it's just lack of sun and the ability to ripen and that there really isn't anything you can do about it. There simply have not been enough sun and light hours in some areas to satisfy the needs of the fruit. His comment is that everyone is talking about the amount of rain we've had but that they don't mention the poor light levels. In terms of wet, lack of sun, low light it's possibly the worst year for tomatoes in 40 years, he thinks. Judith is absolutely right that an erratic watering regime is bad for toms but this year, it's probably not the cause, especially if you're satisfied that you've been watering normally and correctly. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.'- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting point, (sods law) It was earlier in the year April time when I put the young plants in and we had too much sun. I used 'Coolglass shading' to keep some of the sun out . Regards Peter. |
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Tomatoes, falling off
On 27/7/07 16:15, in article
, "Peter C" wrote: On 27 Jul, 10:52, Sacha wrote: On 26/7/07 23:47, in article . com, "Peter C" wrote: On 26 Jul, 20:44, " wrote: On Jul 26, 6:34 pm, Peter C wrote: I am growing Shirley tomatoes , ring culture method in a greenhouse. I have an abundance of tomatoes, just recently I have found odd ones which are full size and are starting to ripen have fallen off. There is evidence of slight rot where the tom is attached to the plant which has caused it to fall off. I cannot find any reference to this problem anywhere. Any views please Peter this happened to us once last year. Ours are grown in the greenhouse in huge pots, We think it is caused by underwatering and then overwatering. We deduced this by going away overnight during a hot spell, when we returned the leaves were a bit limp so I gave them copious amounts of water. They started to ripen and then fell off, not all just some, exactly with the same black bit of rot at the stalk. The ones that did not fall off were outside ones. This year I haven't had a red tomato yet although the crop is big and healthy, usually I have made pickle by now. Judith Thank you Judith, I am not aware I have neglected watering but on the other hand I may have done due to the change in weather from am to pm. This year one of my plants must have at least 50 mature tomatoes on , I have to tie them up. I have already had about 3 lbs off, delicious. Peter. Peter, I asked Ray about this. He used to grow toms commercially. He says it's just lack of sun and the ability to ripen and that there really isn't anything you can do about it. There simply have not been enough sun and light hours in some areas to satisfy the needs of the fruit. His comment is that everyone is talking about the amount of rain we've had but that they don't mention the poor light levels. In terms of wet, lack of sun, low light it's possibly the worst year for tomatoes in 40 years, he thinks. Judith is absolutely right that an erratic watering regime is bad for toms but this year, it's probably not the cause, especially if you're satisfied that you've been watering normally and correctly. -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.'- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting point, (sods law) It was earlier in the year April time when I put the young plants in and we had too much sun. I used 'Coolglass shading' to keep some of the sun out . Regards Peter. There are times when much of gardening is Sod's Law and this year seems to be one of them. In a free monthly magazine about gardens and gardening, which we get here to distribute to customers, there are two articles this month about drought loving plants and water conservation. Even the RHS mag. has something along those lines. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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