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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


You don't say how long a hedge you are planting or how many plants you
are looking for.
Have a look at these people
http://www.buckingham-nurseries.co.u...xHedgeCom.html

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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

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I planted a beech hedge last year - all have flourished - none have died. I
bought them from mirrorgardens.co.uk



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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

I planted a beech hedge last year - all have flourished - none have died.
I bought them from mirrorgardens.co.uk

Are you sure?I've just looked at http://www.mirrorgardens.co.uk/ and could
only see links for mirrors.

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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

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here's the link
http://www.mirrorgarden.co.uk/Index....h&search=beech




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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

here's the link
http://www.mirrorgarden.co.uk/Index....h&search=beech


Got it!
Thank you.

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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

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Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark


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Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.
--
Sacha


I used the calculator on one of the websites suggested. I suppose the site
has a vested interest in exaggerating the number needed. I'll review it. I
thought I'd plant them out in a staggered formation, zig zag.

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On 31/12/07 23:43, in article ,
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:13:45 +0000, Sacha
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On 31/12/07 18:05, in article
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"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.


This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...gclid=CP_y_v7X
05ACFQ6hQwodrnQKXA


I think this must be with some 'instant hedge' idea in mind. It really
isn't necessary. Given time and the proper care, plants planted as I
describe will form as dense a hedge. But if the OP wants to spend the money
that's his choice, of course.
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On 1/1/08 10:08, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:35:30 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 31/12/07 23:43, in article
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"Martin" wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:13:45 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 31/12/07 18:05, in article
, "Mark"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.

This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...l?gclid=CP_y_v
7X
05ACFQ6hQwodrnQKXA


I think this must be with some 'instant hedge' idea in mind. It really
isn't necessary. Given time and the proper care, plants planted as I
describe will form as dense a hedge. But if the OP wants to spend the money
that's his choice, of course.


We have ours planted with a similar spacing to that recommended by
hegdesdirect
They make "a dense hedge" and gives one a fighting chance of having a hedge if
not all the plants grow. Even from a good Dutch supplier around 10% failed.


I can only go by what we sell here but at the spacing I quoted, their
branches would already be touching. I'm surprised at a failure rate of 10%
because on checking with Ray, he tells me we've not had anyone coming back
with complaints and he's sold bare-rooted beech hedging for years. Of
course, much will depend on time of year, plants chosen, how they're
planted, soil, careful watering etc. Just as a matter of interest, were
your failures all in one area, or were they dotted about?
Planting densely and staggered is usually done for stock-proof fencing -
perhaps it helps with vandals and nosy neighbours, too!
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South Devon
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Of the 57 we bought from Bakker 4 survived. I think if they had known they
would
have charged extra for the survivors.


That's really extraordinary. If they were bare-rooted I wonder if they
lifted them too early. Quite often, we we get people getting slightly
impatient because such stock hasn't come in and we have to explain that they
won't be dug up until the leaves have fallen.

Of
course, much will depend on time of year, plants chosen, how they're
planted, soil, careful watering etc. Just as a matter of interest, were
your failures all in one area, or were they dotted about?


They were random within the area planted.

When my wife took them back and asked for the refund that had been promised,
the
guy refused and said she should have returned them immediately. If we had it
wouldn't have given them a chance to come into leaf, nor would we have known
which to take back :-) A typical example of the way the Dutch honour
guarantees.


Not worth the paper, by the sound of it!


Planting densely and staggered is usually done for stock-proof fencing -
perhaps it helps with vandals and nosy neighbours, too!


:-)

Don't talk about obnoxious near neighbours we had our house bombarded with
fireworks for hours yesterday.


We heard a few but at a distance. Today our fireworks have been the crow
scarer!

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This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...6hQwo drnQKXA
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Martin


RHS advice is:



Planting
Planting distances vary from 30-60cm (1-2ft), depending on the plants'
vigor. For hedges thicker than 90cm (3ft) plant a staggered double row 45cm
(18in) apart, with plants 90cm (3ft) apart.



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This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...6hQwo drnQKXA
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Martin


RHS advice is:



Planting
Planting distances vary from 30-60cm (1-2ft), depending on the plants'
vigor. For hedges thicker than 90cm (3ft) plant a staggered double row
45cm (18in) apart, with plants 90cm (3ft) apart.

So how many do I need for a 75 ft hedge?

mark


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"Martin" wrote in message
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This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...ing.html?gclid...
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Martin


RHS advice is:


Planting
Planting distances vary from 30-60cm (1-2ft), depending on the plants'
vigor. For hedges thicker than 90cm (3ft) plant a staggered double row
45cm (18in) apart, with plants 90cm (3ft) apart.


So how many do I need for a 75 ft hedge?

mark


If you are going to plant staggered and want a hedge that will rapidly
become a established and keep out almost everything then plant your 2
rows with 3 ft between plants and 1 ft between the rows, also put a
run of 1inch wire netting 2ft or so high down the middle.
Get the plants as small as possible, they will establish much quicker
than large plants.
If the plants are bare rooted and dry then soak them for a couple of
hours before planting.
if you have a couple of spare then plant them somewhere else to use to
replace any that die.
When I moved in here I planted 2000 bare rooted hawthorn over 2
winters, I lost 1 plant.
After 2 years I put in a load of cuttings of Lonicera nitida to
thicken the hedge.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries


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