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We visited Madeira whilst on a cruise in the early part of the year and
missed out on visiting the Gardens, so when we called in recently whilst
cruising on Cunard's new Queen Victoria, we took the Cable Car to the top
and were confronted with a conundrum. We thought, along with many others,
that there was only one 'Gardens' at the top. No. The Tropical Gardens are
near the top of the Cable Car, to visit the Botanical Gardens, one has to
take another Cable Car back halfway down!!

So if you are visiting Madeira and wish to visit the BOTANICAL GARDENS,
approach it from the bottom, possibly by Taxi, and save time and money :-))

Thought someone might like to know that :-)

Mike

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We visited Madeira whilst on a cruise in the early part of the year and
missed out on visiting the Gardens, so when we called in recently whilst
cruising on Cunard's new Queen Victoria, we took the Cable Car to the top
and were confronted with a conundrum. We thought, along with many others,
that there was only one 'Gardens' at the top. No. The Tropical Gardens are
near the top of the Cable Car, to visit the Botanical Gardens, one has to
take another Cable Car back halfway down!!

So if you are visiting Madeira and wish to visit the BOTANICAL GARDENS,
approach it from the bottom, possibly by Taxi, and save time and money :-))

Thought someone might like to know that :-)

Mike


See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.
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www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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In article , says...
We visited Madeira whilst on a cruise in the early part of the year and
missed out on visiting the Gardens, so when we called in recently whilst
cruising on Cunard's new Queen Victoria, we took the Cable Car to the top
and were confronted with a conundrum. We thought, along with many others,
that there was only one 'Gardens' at the top. No. The Tropical Gardens
are
near the top of the Cable Car, to visit the Botanical Gardens, one has to
take another Cable Car back halfway down!!

So if you are visiting Madeira and wish to visit the BOTANICAL GARDENS,
approach it from the bottom, possibly by Taxi, and save time and money
:-))

Thought someone might like to know that :-)

Mike


See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


Thanks for that contribution Charlie. Can you post some more off-putting
remarks about cruising and see if we can get the queues to cruise down a
bit? Cruising has now become so popular that we have to book well over a
year in advance to secure decent cabins :-(

This last one on Queen Victoria was planned well over 2 years ago because I
wanted 5 Staterooms. I took all the Family with me to celebrate Christmas,
our Golden Wedding and the New Year. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo popular
:-(

Next Winter we are cruising New Zealand and Australia and had to book that
ages ago. :-((

Mike


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"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there.






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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:40:29 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:



"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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In article , says...
We visited Madeira whilst on a cruise in the early part of the year and
missed out on visiting the Gardens, so when we called in recently whilst
cruising on Cunard's new Queen Victoria, we took the Cable Car to the top
and were confronted with a conundrum. We thought, along with many others,
that there was only one 'Gardens' at the top. No. The Tropical Gardens
are
near the top of the Cable Car, to visit the Botanical Gardens, one has to
take another Cable Car back halfway down!!

So if you are visiting Madeira and wish to visit the BOTANICAL GARDENS,
approach it from the bottom, possibly by Taxi, and save time and money
:-))

Thought someone might like to know that :-)

Mike


See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


Thanks for that contribution Charlie. Can you post some more off-putting
remarks about cruising and see if we can get the queues to cruise down a
bit? Cruising has now become so popular that we have to book well over a
year in advance to secure decent cabins :-(

This last one on Queen Victoria was planned well over 2 years ago because I
wanted 5 Staterooms. I took all the Family with me to celebrate Christmas,
our Golden Wedding and the New Year. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo popular
:-(

Next Winter we are cruising New Zealand and Australia and had to book that
ages ago. :-((

Mike


What has all this got to do with gardening? Can't you understand that
we are all sick and tired of hearing about your cruises? Have a look
at the earlier thread 'As forecast' and see what everyone thinks about
you amd your continual boasting.
Please book yourself a permanent cabin and stop bothering us here.
Thank you.

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On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:40:29 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:


What has all this got to do with gardening? Can't you understand that
we are all sick and tired of hearing about your cruises? Have a look
at the earlier thread 'As forecast' and see what everyone thinks about
you amd your continual boasting.
Please book yourself a permanent cabin and stop bothering us here.
Thank you.


and I suppose that your TV is on all the time and you moan about the
contents of the programmes?

There are those on this newsgroup who 'claim' to use the kill file facility.
Might I respectfully suggest that if you are so paranoid about my postings,
that you actually "USE" said facility?

I feel sure that
http://www.globalretreatcentre.org.u...ayretreats.htm would
help you with your understanding and tolerance of other human beings.

Kindest possible regards

Mike


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"Fuschia" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:40:29 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:


What has all this got to do with gardening? Can't you understand that
we are all sick and tired of hearing about your cruises? Have a look
at the earlier thread 'As forecast' and see what everyone thinks about
you amd your continual boasting.
Please book yourself a permanent cabin and stop bothering us here.
Thank you.


and I suppose that your TV is on all the time and you moan about the
contents of the programmes?

There are those on this newsgroup who 'claim' to use the kill file facility.
Might I respectfully suggest that if you are so paranoid about my postings,
that you actually "USE" said facility?

I feel sure that
http://www.globalretreatcentre.org.u...ayretreats.htm would
help you with your understanding and tolerance of other human beings.

Kindest possible regards


I feel you have missed the point, 'Mike'.

Consider this newsgroup to be a garden path, and that something
unpleasant has been left in the middle of it by an animal. The proper
solution is to remove the obstruction, rather than to expect everyone
to walk on the garden to avoid it.

As Fuschia pointed out, there are a number of people who are tired of
your continual self-promotion and diversions from real gardening
discussions. I include myself in that number.
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"Sacha" wrote after..
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

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See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.


One could spend the best part of a day in the Monte gardens alone. But I
must say that we liked the Blandy gardens even more - possibly because
they're more English in style, do you think?
Liz is right about the cable car! We took it but I really didn't like it,
especially when it swung a bit as it went over the runner thingies, or
over
a deep gorge. I've used dozens of cable cars when skiing but somehow,
being
in one that isn't above the snow that I ridiculously imagine will cushion
my
fall, made me very uncomfortable.


There is a spectacular cable car that runs from Cairns to Kuranda in
Queensland which just skims over the tops of the rainforest trees. A must
for any plants person.

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Bob Hobden


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On 7/1/08 16:28, in article , "Bob Hobden"
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"Sacha" wrote after..
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

snip
See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.


One could spend the best part of a day in the Monte gardens alone. But I
must say that we liked the Blandy gardens even more - possibly because
they're more English in style, do you think?
Liz is right about the cable car! We took it but I really didn't like it,
especially when it swung a bit as it went over the runner thingies, or
over
a deep gorge. I've used dozens of cable cars when skiing but somehow,
being
in one that isn't above the snow that I ridiculously imagine will cushion
my
fall, made me very uncomfortable.


There is a spectacular cable car that runs from Cairns to Kuranda in
Queensland which just skims over the tops of the rainforest trees. A must
for any plants person.


That might be okay - I used to be quite good at climbing trees, so at least
I could climb down them. ;-))
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On 7/1/08 16:28, in article
, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote after..
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

snip
See thats the problem with cruises, no time to see anything :~) There are
in fact 3 large gardens at the top of the cable car run at Monte and as
you say on a completely seperate cable car and only about half way up is
the botanic garden, there are also a further 3 orchid gardens nearby, we
wouldn't use the cable car for any of them (assuming I could get my wife
on it!) the buses are much cheaper and more fun.

One could spend the best part of a day in the Monte gardens alone. But I
must say that we liked the Blandy gardens even more - possibly because
they're more English in style, do you think?
Liz is right about the cable car! We took it but I really didn't like it,
especially when it swung a bit as it went over the runner thingies, or
over
a deep gorge. I've used dozens of cable cars when skiing but somehow,
being
in one that isn't above the snow that I ridiculously imagine will cushion
my
fall, made me very uncomfortable.


There is a spectacular cable car that runs from Cairns to Kuranda in
Queensland which just skims over the tops of the rainforest trees. A must
for any plants person.


That might be okay - I used to be quite good at climbing trees, so at least
I could climb down them. ;-))

I think I do pretty well getting Liz on the Levada walks, I think Cable
cars are not an option, we are talking about the girl who walked up Table
mountain rather than ride, and my arm has never recovered from the
helicopter ride to Tresco abbey gardens (if I had know she was that
strong she could have carried her own cases!)

--
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www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea


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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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There is a spectacular cable car that runs from Cairns to Kuranda in
Queensland which just skims over the tops of the rainforest trees. A must
for any plants person.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden



My Daughter and Son in Law did that a couple of years ago and said it was
fantastic. We are going to Cairns after our next Winter Cruise on Diamond
Princess when we spend some time doing the 'must sees'.

Mike


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'Mike' wrote:


My Daughter and Son in Law did that a couple of years ago and said it was
fantastic. We are going to Cairns after our next Winter Cruise on Diamond
Princess when we spend some time doing the 'must sees'.

Mike



Oh gawd - he just can't see it!!!

Jeff
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"'Mike'" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
There is a spectacular cable car that runs from Cairns to Kuranda in
Queensland which just skims over the tops of the rainforest trees. A must
for any plants person.


My Daughter and Son in Law did that a couple of years ago and said it was
fantastic. We are going to Cairns after our next Winter Cruise on Diamond
Princess when we spend some time doing the 'must sees'.

Cairns is for the kids, Port Douglas is the place and it's 70km North
towards the Daintree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Douglas,_Queensland

http://www.daintreerainforest.com/

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