#1   Report Post  
Old 21-04-2003, 01:33 PM
Barry & Iris McCanna
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers

I grow a lot of different varieties of Aquilegia. Late summer last
year they were attacked by very small green caterpillars. It was only
the aquilegias that were affected. I managed to kill them all.
Yesterday I discovered the start of another mass attack, this much
earlier than last year. Again only the aquilegias. Has anyone any
idea what the culprit is? There aren't too many butterflies around
yet.

Regards
Iris McCanna

--
(All outgoing messages certified virus free)


  #2   Report Post  
Old 21-04-2003, 03:00 PM
Annabel
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers


"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote in message
...
I grow a lot of different varieties of Aquilegia. Late summer last
year they were attacked by very small green caterpillars. It was only
the aquilegias that were affected. I managed to kill them all.
Yesterday I discovered the start of another mass attack, this much
earlier than last year. Again only the aquilegias. Has anyone any
idea what the culprit is? There aren't too many butterflies around
yet.

Regards
Iris McCanna

--


I don't know the answer to your question but the butterfly caterpillars
are hugely outnumbered by moth and other insect caterpillars.

Bel



  #3   Report Post  
Old 21-04-2003, 09:44 PM
Sue
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers


"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote
I grow a lot of different varieties of Aquilegia. Late summer last
year they were attacked by very small green caterpillars. It was only
the aquilegias that were affected. I managed to kill them all.
Yesterday I discovered the start of another mass attack, this much
earlier than last year. Again only the aquilegias. Has anyone any
idea what the culprit is? There aren't too many butterflies around
yet.


That's probably sawfly, the larvae will attack aquilegias. The plants
recover if damaged foliage is cut hard back.

Sue




  #4   Report Post  
Old 21-04-2003, 11:32 PM
Neil Jones
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers

"Annabel" wrote in message ...
"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote in message
...
I grow a lot of different varieties of Aquilegia. Late summer last
year they were attacked by very small green caterpillars. It was only
the aquilegias that were affected. I managed to kill them all.
Yesterday I discovered the start of another mass attack, this much
earlier than last year. Again only the aquilegias. Has anyone any
idea what the culprit is? There aren't too many butterflies around
yet.

Regards
Iris McCanna

--


I don't know the answer to your question but the butterfly caterpillars
are hugely outnumbered by moth and other insect caterpillars.

Bel


Generally the only European butterflies that are major pests are the
two Cabbage
Whites. Pieris brassicae (The Large White) and Pieris rapae (The Small
White).
(Technically Pieris cheiranthi too but it is only on a few of the
Canary islands)
There are other species for which garden plants are on the list of
foodplants but generally they won't touch them in a garden situation.
In France you might just get Swallowtails on your carrots, but that
is worth it. They really are spectacular and so are the caterpillars
There is one on the centre of my home page. I am growing carrots and
several other unbellifers just for captive Swallowtails.

Caterpillar problems are much more likely to be moths. Nothing
specific comes immediately to mind. If you have caterpillars that
gather on the edge of the leaves and curl out defensively when
approached they are the larvae of sawflies.

--
Neil Jones- http://www.butterflyguy.com/
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn
Bog National Nature Reserve
  #5   Report Post  
Old 22-04-2003, 01:20 PM
Barry & Iris McCanna
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers


"Neil Jones" wrote in message
m...


Generally the only European butterflies that are major pests are the
two Cabbage
Whites. Pieris brassicae (The Large White) and Pieris rapae (The

Small
White).
(Technically Pieris cheiranthi too but it is only on a few of the
Canary islands)
There are other species for which garden plants are on the list of
foodplants but generally they won't touch them in a garden

situation.
In France you might just get Swallowtails on your carrots, but that
is worth it. They really are spectacular and so are the caterpillars
There is one on the centre of my home page. I am growing carrots and
several other unbellifers just for captive Swallowtails.

Caterpillar problems are much more likely to be moths. Nothing
specific comes immediately to mind. If you have caterpillars that
gather on the edge of the leaves and curl out defensively when
approached they are the larvae of sawflies.

--
Neil Jones-


Thanks Neil and everyone. Yes, we do have a lot of Swallowtails here,
not seen yet this year though. They love the fennel and later on there
are always dozens of caterpillars just on the two fennels (green and
bronze).

I think the most likely answer is sawfly. It is only the aquilegias
that have been attacked in a very large area full of perennials. Last
year for the first time and again now.

Thanks again.




  #6   Report Post  
Old 23-04-2003, 04:08 PM
Neil Jones
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers

"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote in message ...
"Neil Jones" wrote in message
m...


Generally the only European butterflies that are major pests are the
two Cabbage
Whites. Pieris brassicae (The Large White) and Pieris rapae (The

Small
White).
(Technically Pieris cheiranthi too but it is only on a few of the
Canary islands)
There are other species for which garden plants are on the list of
foodplants but generally they won't touch them in a garden

situation.
In France you might just get Swallowtails on your carrots, but that
is worth it. They really are spectacular and so are the caterpillars
There is one on the centre of my home page. I am growing carrots and
several other unbellifers just for captive Swallowtails.

Caterpillar problems are much more likely to be moths. Nothing
specific comes immediately to mind. If you have caterpillars that
gather on the edge of the leaves and curl out defensively when
approached they are the larvae of sawflies.

--
Neil Jones-


Thanks Neil and everyone. Yes, we do have a lot of Swallowtails here,
not seen yet this year though. They love the fennel and later on there
are always dozens of caterpillars just on the two fennels (green and
bronze).


Oh I envy you!
As it happens I have just planted 4 bronze fennels and 3 green ones.
Fennel is a better option as a foodplant, but they will take all sorts
of things in the Unbeliferae and sometimes even Rutaceae. I have read
of Choysia ternata being used. Unfortunately the unique distinctive
British Swallowtail is only found in the Norfolk Broads.

I think the most likely answer is sawfly. It is only the aquilegias
that have been attacked in a very large area full of perennials. Last
year for the first time and again now.


Maybe. I can't tell at this distance but many insects specialise on
one species
of plant so you can't be sure. Take a look at the caterpillars they
will have 3 pairs of joined legs on the thorax towards the head.
Further back there are more pairs of legs but these are more fleshy.
If there are more than 5 pairs of these then you have sawflies.
--
Neil Jones- http://www.butterflyguy.com/
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn
Bog National Nature Reserve


Thanks again.

  #7   Report Post  
Old 23-04-2003, 04:11 PM
Neil Jones
 
Posts: n/a
Default Aquilegia munchers

"Barry & Iris McCanna" wrote in message ...
"Neil Jones" wrote in message
m...


Generally the only European butterflies that are major pests are the
two Cabbage
Whites. Pieris brassicae (The Large White) and Pieris rapae (The

Small
White).
(Technically Pieris cheiranthi too but it is only on a few of the
Canary islands)
There are other species for which garden plants are on the list of
foodplants but generally they won't touch them in a garden

situation.
In France you might just get Swallowtails on your carrots, but that
is worth it. They really are spectacular and so are the caterpillars
There is one on the centre of my home page. I am growing carrots and
several other unbellifers just for captive Swallowtails.

Caterpillar problems are much more likely to be moths. Nothing
specific comes immediately to mind. If you have caterpillars that
gather on the edge of the leaves and curl out defensively when
approached they are the larvae of sawflies.

--
Neil Jones-


Thanks Neil and everyone. Yes, we do have a lot of Swallowtails here,
not seen yet this year though. They love the fennel and later on there
are always dozens of caterpillars just on the two fennels (green and
bronze).


Oh I envy you!
As it happens I have just planted 4 bronze fennels and 3 green ones.
Fennel is a better option as a foodplant, but they will take all sorts
of things in the Unbeliferae and sometimes even Rutaceae. I have read
of Choysia ternata being used. Unfortunately the unique distinctive
British Swallowtail is only found in the Norfolk Broads.

I think the most likely answer is sawfly. It is only the aquilegias
that have been attacked in a very large area full of perennials. Last
year for the first time and again now.


Maybe. I can't tell at this distance but many insects specialise on
one species
of plant so you can't be sure. Take a look at the caterpillars they
will have 3 pairs of joined legs on the thorax towards the head.
Further back there are more pairs of legs but these are more fleshy.
If there are more than 5 pairs of these then you have sawflies.
--
Neil Jones- http://www.butterflyguy.com/
"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn
Bog National Nature Reserve


Thanks again.

Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tomato munchers snafu Gardening 4 02-09-2004 04:44 AM
Caterpillars on Aquilegia John Rouse United Kingdom 1 14-05-2004 11:07 PM
Aquilegia dividing? Janet Tweedy United Kingdom 2 26-04-2004 01:04 PM
"Left wing kookiness", and dissembling carpet-munchers Jonathan Ball Gardening 0 18-12-2003 08:42 PM
Aquilegia Seed vsop United Kingdom 5 21-06-2003 02:44 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:59 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 GardenBanter.co.uk.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Gardening"

 

Copyright © 2017