On 24/2/08 23:21, in article ,
"Zhang DaWei" wrote:

On 24 Feb 2008 13:26:50 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

[...] You shouldn't take so much notice of the New
Age Merkins

Not a comment to be made in the company of a group of wig makers, I
presume...

That one's going to go 'whoosh' with all too many..... ;-))
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 24/2/08 23:21, in article ,
| "Zhang DaWei" wrote:
|
| [...] You shouldn't take so much notice of the New
| Age Merkins
|
| Not a comment to be made in the company of a group of wig makers, I
| presume...
|
| That one's going to go 'whoosh' with all too many..... ;-))

Indeed. Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
I haven't :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 25/2/08 10:27, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 24/2/08 23:21, in article ,
| "Zhang DaWei" wrote:
|
| [...] You shouldn't take so much notice of the New
| Age Merkins
|
| Not a comment to be made in the company of a group of wig makers, I
| presume...
|
| That one's going to go 'whoosh' with all too many..... ;-))

Indeed. Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
I haven't :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nor have I - but would we admit it if we had?!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Indeed. Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
| I haven't :-)
|
| Nor have I - but would we admit it if we had?!

Well, there are such things as museums :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 25/2/08 11:23, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Indeed. Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
| I haven't :-)
|
| Nor have I - but would we admit it if we had?!

Well, there are such things as museums :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

The mind boggles - what do you get up to in your spare time! ;-)

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Granity wrote:
Why should the use of vinegar as a weed killer be considered organic?
It's a chemical just as much as Glyphosate or NPK fertiliser is, just
because you put it on your chips doesn't make it organic.

I understand that vinegar was traditionally made from natural products,
wine amongst them. However, today it is possible to buy vinegar which
is made entirely synthetically. In the case of the former I understand
that provided the vinegar is not made too strongly it actually serves as
nourishment for the microbial life within soil. Whether modern
synthetically-manufactured vinegar does the same, I am not sure.

What is pertinent in my case is that vinegar of either kind sprayed onto
foliage does not reach and kill the roots.

Eddy.

Martin wrote:
Why don't you forget about using vinegar as a systemic herbicide and instead use
it for pickling your vegetables?

Thank you, Martin. If you observe the dates of earlier postings you
will see that I decided not to pursue using vinegar. You're right to
suggest it for pickling though. In fact, today, in a bookshop, I saw a
book ENTIRELY devoted to explaining over 50 different uses for vinegar!
A most versatile liquid it seems!

Eddy.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 24/2/08 23:21, in article ,
| "Zhang DaWei" wrote:
|
| [...] You shouldn't take so much notice of the New
| Age Merkins
|
| Not a comment to be made in the company of a group of wig makers, I
| presume...
|
| That one's going to go 'whoosh' with all too many..... ;-))

Indeed. Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
I haven't :-)

I should hope not!

Try googling for "merkin" and you might have a surprise. Complete with
illustrations! Well, not you, Nick, because you are an educated man.
;-)

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

Just to put it on record for future reference . . .

I have had word from a scientist working for USDA, the United States
Department of Agriculture, that in their investigations of vinegar they
have found it comparable in effectiveness to herbicides like paraquat,
but it does not act systemically and so will not kill roots. They
advise that the "safest" root-killing herbicide that exists is
glyphosate.

Eddy.

In article ,
Eddy writes:
|
| I have had word from a scientist working for USDA, the United States
| Department of Agriculture, that in their investigations of vinegar they
| have found it comparable in effectiveness to herbicides like paraquat,
| but it does not act systemically and so will not kill roots. They
| advise that the "safest" root-killing herbicide that exists is
| glyphosate.

That's a pretty damning indictment of paraquat! There are plenty
of effective, non-persistent defoliants, including ammonia, brine and
sodium chlorate. Note that the latter two are non-persistent in UK
conditions, but not always in USA ones.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
That's a pretty damning indictment of paraquat!

Nick, to view it from another angle, I understand that their experiments
have demonstrated that strong vinegar is surprisingly effective as a
defoliant.

Regards,
Eddy.

On Feb 25, 10:40*pm, David Rance
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 *Nick Maclaren wrote:







In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 24/2/08 23:21, in article ,
| "Zhang DaWei" wrote:
|
| [...] You shouldn't take so much notice of the New
| Age Merkins
|
| Not a comment to be made in the company of a group of wig makers, I
| presume...
|
| That one's going to go 'whoosh' with all too many..... *;-))

Indeed. *Has anyone here ever SEEN a merkin (without the capital)?
I haven't :-)

I should hope not!

Try googling for "merkin" and you might have a surprise. Complete with
illustrations! *Well, not you, Nick, *because you are an educated man.
;-)

David

Ahem. I have just been er... educated.

Cat(h)

On Mar 5, 3:41*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:42 GMT, Eddy
wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
That's a pretty damning indictment of paraquat! *

Nick, to view it from another angle, I understand that their experiments
have demonstrated that strong vinegar is surprisingly effective as a
defoliant.

Good on chips too.
--

Martin

Far better raspberry flavoured or balsamic, with a splash of good
quality extra virgin olive oil, over mixed young leaves freshly picked
from the garden.
And don't dress too soon before serving, as vinegar is highly
efficient as a systemic leaf-wilter.

Cat(h)

On Mar 5, 4:24*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:21:03 -0800 (PST), "Cat(h)" wrote:
On Mar 5, 3:41*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:42 GMT, Eddy
wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
That's a pretty damning indictment of paraquat! *

Nick, to view it from another angle, I understand that their experiments
have demonstrated that strong vinegar is surprisingly effective as a
defoliant.

Good on chips too.
Far better raspberry flavoured or balsamic, with a splash of good
quality extra virgin olive oil, over mixed young leaves freshly picked
from the garden.
And don't dress too soon before serving, as vinegar is highly
efficient as a systemic leaf-wilter.

Always eat chips with mayonnaise in a state undress to avoid wilting.
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

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Is this where the merkin gets handy?

I could not help it, your honour.

Cat(h)

On 5/3/08 16:49, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:47:34 -0800 (PST), "Cat(h)" wrote:

On Mar 5, 4:24*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:21:03 -0800 (PST), "Cat(h)"
wrote:
On Mar 5, 3:41*pm, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:42 GMT, Eddy

wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
That's a pretty damning indictment of paraquat! *

Nick, to view it from another angle, I understand that their experiments
have demonstrated that strong vinegar is surprisingly effective as a
defoliant.

Good on chips too.
Far better raspberry flavoured or balsamic, with a splash of good
quality extra virgin olive oil, over mixed young leaves freshly picked
from the garden.
And don't dress too soon before serving, as vinegar is highly
efficient as a systemic leaf-wilter.

Always eat chips with mayonnaise in a state undress to avoid wilting.

Is this where the merkin gets handy?

I could not help it, your honour.

Don't let them pull the wool over our eyes.

Your EYES?!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'