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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 12:22 PM

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Recipe please!!!


Proper trifle, or Mother's Sherry Surprise?

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 12:23 PM

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from Judith in France contains these words:
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But the Normans don't know anything about blackberry and apple pie!


The French don't seem to know anything about cooking apples, either.
(Use 'cooking' how you will, as an adjective, or a verb...)
Tarte tatin? *And doesn't Calvados count? *;-))


Tarte tatin would be OK with Bramleys or codlins. The French make it
with scraps of apple-flavoured leather.

Calvados isn't cooked until it is fermented, so that doesn't count.

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Behave Rusty! They do not :-)


Oh yes they do!

(And oh no I won't!)

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 12:23 PM

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I didn't like the shape of the loaves in our first breadmaker but the
second one has a normal shaped loaf size.


with a hole, and sometimes a blade, in it's bottom?


Oo-er!

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 12:25 PM

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
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I didn't like the shape of the loaves in our first breadmaker but the
second one has a normal shaped loaf size.

Judith


Too tall tho for the toaster and I dislike the hole at the bottom :)


Well, I always cut it the other way, in which case, it's just right for
the toaster.

Not rocket science. (I cherish the memory of an old fiend, long
departed, who used to toast his 'piece' with a propane blowtorch.)

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 12:26 PM

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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:33:36 +0100, AriesVal

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
On Aug 18, 10:17*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
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I didn't like the shape of the loaves in our first breadmaker but the
second one has a normal shaped loaf size.

Judith


Too tall tho for the toaster and I dislike the hole at the bottom :)


Which machine have you got, Val?


I think she's using hers on its side.

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Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:24 PM

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On Aug 19, 11:33*am, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:01:18 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
On Aug 18, 10:17*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
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I didn't like the shape of the loaves in our first breadmaker but the
second one has a normal shaped loaf size.


Judith


Too tall tho for the toaster and I dislike the hole at the bottom :)
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:-) no comment to that one!!!

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:26 PM

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On Aug 19, 11:45*am, K wrote:
Rusty Hinge 2 writes



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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:18:58 +0200, Martin wrote:
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wrote:


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We use a Panasonic ABM, it's easier than using the Kenwood.


Easier doesn't mean better tho :) *I've used both and know which I
prefer :)


Us too and we do too. :)


MTAAAW. Been using one since the 1950s, though in those days, under
supervision.


Reading review, there's a lot of variation in bread machines. Guess it
all depends on whether you were lucky enough to get one you like. We
started with a Prima, which is the one Judith remembers, and now have a
bigger Panasonic which is easier to clean than the Prima. Prima is now
being used daily by friends of ours.

And, of course, I'm not that an enthusiastic cook, so I don't have a big
Kenwood, just a little hand held beater for the (very) occasional sponge
cake (and for fluffing up mashed potatoes).
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'Scuse me, I remember you as a very good cook!!

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:27 PM

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On Aug 19, 12:13*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
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Rusty what is barm?


Take a cup of strong white flour and scald it with boiling water,
stirring furiously so that it finishes as lumpless as possible, and the
consistency of white sauce.

Allow to cool, then bung in an ounce of live yeast (or a packet of dried
yeast.

Allow to work for a day, then make another pot of gruel and when cool,
seed it with a tablespoon of yesterday's brew.

From then on, just make tomorrow's barm by seeding with the previous
days, then use the remainder in the day's bread.

The improvement in flavour and texture is 'something else'.

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Thank you Rusty, a bit like ginger pop then?

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:28 PM

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On Aug 19, 11:55*am, K wrote:
Rusty Hinge 2 writes

The baker I learnt to make real bread from (though I've been making
some sort of bread since 1950) reckoned that the longer you kept strong
flour (and assuming you keep the moths, mealworms, mites out of it) the
better it became for breadmaking.


Many years ago in my student days I remember rescuing a large bag of
something (flour? rice?) by heating it and then sieving it to remove all
the unwanted protein.

I'd like to reassure anyone who has accepted my hospitality that that
was a *very* long time ago ;-)
--
Kay


LOL - I didn't have any after affects from eating your food lol

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:29 PM

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On Aug 19, 12:21*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
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Brilliant Rusty, I don't have a big plastic cover thing so I shall be
amusing myself looking round the hypermarket for one. *I think I need
you here for a few jobs, you can't refuse as we were neighbours!! *I
too have a problem with the mixing bit remaining in the bread and
actually getting the bread out of the pan, now I put a tea towel on
the floor and bang it hard, until it comes out still with paddle
inside bread. *A quick flick of a tool, searching for the paddle,
flick, and it's out! *There must be an easier way lol


Best way is to roll-up a ball of aluminium foil so that it is slightly
larger than the bush the paddle goes in.

Mix the bread, tip it out when done, remove the paddle and substitute
the ball of foil, pressing it down so that it is flush with the bottom
of the pan.

Replace pan, splumph in dough, then continue as usual.

Unforget to press out foil before the next mixing, though, as you don't
want to have to go fishing amongst the casing for potential
works-jamming cylinders of foil...

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I won't be able to remember all this so I am printing it out, thanks
Rusty.

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:30 PM

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On Aug 19, 12:22*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
The message

from Judith in France contains these words:

Recipe please!!!


Proper trifle, or Mother's Sherry Surprise?

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Proper trifle please.

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 03:30 PM

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On Aug 19, 12:23*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
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On Aug 18, 8:51*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
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from Sacha contains these words:
On 17/8/08 22:00, in article
, "Rusty
Hinge" wrote:
The message
from David Rance contains
these words:


But the Normans don't know anything about blackberry and apple pie!


The French don't seem to know anything about cooking apples, either.
(Use 'cooking' how you will, as an adjective, or a verb...)
Tarte tatin? *And doesn't Calvados count? *;-))


Tarte tatin would be OK with Bramleys or codlins. The French make it
with scraps of apple-flavoured leather.


Calvados isn't cooked until it is fermented, so that doesn't count.


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Behave Rusty! *They do not :-)


Oh yes they do!

(And oh no I won't!)

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What's new there then :-)

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 04:05 PM

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On Aug 19, 3:56*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
We have a Panasonic SD253
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...ad-Maker-Revie...


User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239


I found this link a direct one

http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....z3z1ea7cz656ez...

Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)
--
Having Good Character
doesn't always mean following the crowd.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/


Our Martin, is one of the most helpful people on usenet, I couldn't do
without him!

Judith

Nick Maclaren 19-08-2008 04:15 PM

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In article ,
Martin writes:
|
| The fact that we could download an English version manual was the thing that
| made up our minds when we bought one. We didn't really want another manual in
| Polish Czech and ...

You then find that it was written by a Czech who was working from
a version that had been automatically transcribed from Japanese
into Polish :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha[_3_] 19-08-2008 04:54 PM

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On 19/8/08 16:14, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

On Aug 19, 3:56*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
We have a Panasonic SD253
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...ad-Maker-Revie...

User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239

I found this link a direct one

http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....z3z1ea7cz656ez...

Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)
--
Having Good Character
doesn't always mean following the crowd.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/


Our Martin, is one of the most helpful people on usenet, I couldn't do
without him!


It would be just Sacha and her trusty naive blonde musketeer without me.


I'm losing track of all this? What am I doing - or not doing - now? ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon



Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 04:56 PM

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I'm not sure whether mine are wild or alpine (they were already here
when I bought the house) - suspect the latter. In a wet year like this
they can attain the size of marbles, they produce lots of runners (I let
them grow where they will and just heave out an armful when I want to
plant anything), started fruiting in May and are still producing a few
berries. I've even had enough to put a few boxes in the deepfreeze.


Not alpines, then, as they don't produce runners.

From the fruiting regimen it sounds as if you have wild strawbs.

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:08 PM

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from K contains these words:
Rusty Hinge 2 writes

MTAAAW. Been using one since the 1950s, though in those days, under
supervision.

Reading review, there's a lot of variation in bread machines. Guess it
all depends on whether you were lucky enough to get one you like. We
started with a Prima, which is the one Judith remembers, and now have a
bigger Panasonic which is easier to clean than the Prima. Prima is now
being used daily by friends of ours.


I meant using a kenwood Chef. I baked bread (hand-kneaded) in the Aga.

And, of course, I'm not that an enthusiastic cook, so I don't have a big
Kenwood, just a little hand held beater for the (very) occasional sponge
cake (and for fluffing up mashed potatoes).


Ah, I have one of they, as well as a Bosch hand-held
liquidiser-on-a-stalk. There's a local house-clearance business, and my
next-door neighbours have a secondhand furniture and new pine furniture
shop, and they do occasional house clearances, so I get these things at
silly-cheap prices.

The Kenwood with only a bowl and the K-mixer cost £4.50; a spare bowl,
the whisk and dough-hook which didn't come with the original cost 50p;
the hand-held whisk and the Bosch thingy-on-a-stick were SFP¹º³ because
the whiskything (hic!) had been in stock for weeks, and the
Bosch-on-a-stick had been thrown out by a charity shop from which the
first-mentioned business collected rubbish. Thoughtfully, the cable had
been cut off, which meant I had to make a new one and connect it.

¹º³ Sheddi's Favourite Price¹³º

¹³ºFOC³ºº

³ººGuess?

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:09 PM

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The message
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Rusty Hinge 2 writes


The baker I learnt to make real bread from (though I've been making
some sort of bread since 1950) reckoned that the longer you kept strong
flour (and assuming you keep the moths, mealworms, mites out of it) the
better it became for breadmaking.


Many years ago in my student days I remember rescuing a large bag of
something (flour? rice?) by heating it and then sieving it to remove all
the unwanted protein.


I'd like to reassure anyone who has accepted my hospitality that that
was a *very* long time ago ;-)


My hero!

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:12 PM

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Too tall tho for the toaster and I dislike the hole at the bottom :)


Well, I always cut it the other way, in which case, it's just right for
the toaster.


Not for the way the Hinari makes it - a sort of big tubby square - doesn't
make a normal looking slice whichever way it's cut :(


Evidently it's been rebored too many times.

Obviously needs another rebore and a sleeve...

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:14 PM

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/barm/

Thank you Rusty, a bit like ginger pop then?


Well, you'd have a job drinking it.

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:23 PM

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from Judith in France contains these words:

Proper trifle please.


I don't do proper trifle, but it goes thusly:

Break-up some dry sponge in the bottom of a deeply cut lead-crystal bowl.

Molish a jelly double-strength, then add about half the jelly's volume
of cream sherry. (Don't skimp - British 'sherry' WILL NOT DO.

Pour jelly over the sponge and allow to set. (You can have a layer of
jam in the very bottom, if desired. Suggest strawberry is best.)

Molish an egg custard, and pour it ver the jelly before it (the custard)
sets, but not so that it is hot enough to destroy your best lead crystal
bowl.

Leave to set, and cool.

Cover with whipped double cream.

Note: REAL trifle doesn't contain fruit salad.

Also note:

My version does...

.... and mosht of it pre-schteeped in schnappsh, or calvadosh, or shimilar.

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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:25 PM

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The fact that we could download an English version manual was the thing that
made up our minds when we bought one. We didn't really want another
manual in
Polish Czech and ...


....translated into Korean, and from there into Ingrish.

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Sacha[_3_] 19-08-2008 05:25 PM

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On 19/8/08 16:57, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:54:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/8/08 16:14, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:

On Aug 19, 3:56*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
We have a Panasonic SD253
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...ad-Maker-Revie...

User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239

I found this link a direct one

http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....z3z1ea7cz656ez...

Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)
--
Having Good Character
doesn't always mean following the crowd.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/

Our Martin, is one of the most helpful people on usenet, I couldn't do
without him!

It would be just Sacha and her trusty naive blonde musketeer without me.


I'm losing track of all this? What am I doing - or not doing - now? ;-)


Keeping an eye on Judith, your trusty naive blonde.


Full time job, I'll tell you! ;-))

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon



Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 05:26 PM

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You then find that it was written by a Czech who was working from
a version that had been automatically transcribed from Japanese
into Polish :-)


Lingorays!

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K 19-08-2008 08:53 PM

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Rusty Hinge 2 writes
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I'm not sure whether mine are wild or alpine (they were already here
when I bought the house) - suspect the latter. In a wet year like this
they can attain the size of marbles, they produce lots of runners (I let
them grow where they will and just heave out an armful when I want to
plant anything), started fruiting in May and are still producing a few
berries. I've even had enough to put a few boxes in the deepfreeze.


Not alpines, then, as they don't produce runners.


That's what I thought, but I've never met wilds this big

From the fruiting regimen it sounds as if you have wild strawbs.


--
Kay

K 19-08-2008 08:54 PM

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Judith in France writes
On Aug 19, 11:45*am, K wrote:

And, of course, I'm not that an enthusiastic cook, so I don't have a big
Kenwood, just a little hand held beater for the (very) occasional sponge
cake (and for fluffing up mashed potatoes).
--

'Scuse me, I remember you as a very good cook!!

Oh, I'm good, just not enthusiastic ;-)
--
Kay

K 19-08-2008 08:59 PM

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AriesVal writes
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:

We have a Panasonic SD253

http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...-Maker-Reviews
/22049697.html

User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239



I found this link a direct one

http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....1ea7cz656ez706
466z32z64ea72af8108f82a1c2bb14a0b43bcfd64c99208/ttips/Home_Appliances/Br
ead_Makers/SD/253/725564/B253.pdf

Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)


That looks like ours. We like it, but we do the baking in the oven for
better crusts. Nice to spend a couple of minutes chucking ingredients in
then come back a couple of hours later to risen dough.
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Kay

K 19-08-2008 09:06 PM

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Rusty Hinge 2 writes

Allow to work for a day, then make another pot of gruel and when cool,
seed it with a tablespoon of yesterday's brew.

That reminds me (though it's quite different) of sourdough bread, where
you make a dough and leave it on the windowsill for a few days to catch
whatever yeasts it can. Gives a very dense and interesting bread. Said
to be improved by chucking in a few veg or fruit that are past their
best - sound grim but the results are good (rather like making scones or
soda bread with sour milk - the lactic acid reacts with the soda and the
results are incredibly light and with no trace of sourness)


--
Kay

Judith in France 19-08-2008 09:38 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Aug 19, 4:14*pm, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France





wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:56*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
We have a Panasonic SD253
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...ad-Maker-Revie....


User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239


I found this link a direct one


http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....z3z1ea7cz656ez....


Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)
--
Having Good Character
doesn't always mean following the crowd.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/


Our Martin, is one of the most helpful people on usenet, I couldn't do
without him!


It would be just Sacha and her trusty naive blonde musketeer without me.
--

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:-)

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 09:39 PM

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On Aug 19, 5:36*pm, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:25:37 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 19/8/08 16:57, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:


On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:54:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:


On 19/8/08 16:14, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:


On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France
wrote:


On Aug 19, 3:56*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:50:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
We have a Panasonic SD253
http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_rupr/P...ad-Maker-Revie...


User manual and operating instructions downloads at
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239


I found this link a direct one


http://tda.panasonic-europe-service....z3z1ea7cz656ez...


Thanks so much Martin for posting those details - very much appreciated.
I'll most likely buy one now :)
--
Having Good Character
doesn't always mean following the crowd.http://www.copelands.plus.com/val/


Our Martin, is one of the most helpful people on usenet, I couldn't do
without him!


It would be just Sacha and her trusty naive blonde musketeer without me.


I'm losing track of all this? *What am I doing - or not doing - now? ;-)


Keeping an eye on Judith, your trusty naive blonde.


Full time job, I'll tell you! *;-))


One day she will grow up and leave home :)
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You promised me that you wouldn't tell that I was still living at
home, duh who can you trust these days :-)

Judith

Judith in France 19-08-2008 09:43 PM

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On Aug 19, 5:23*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
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Proper trifle please.


I don't do proper trifle, but it goes thusly:

Break-up some dry sponge in the bottom of a deeply cut lead-crystal bowl.

Molish a jelly double-strength, then add about half the jelly's volume
of cream sherry. (Don't skimp - British 'sherry' WILL NOT DO.

Pour jelly over the sponge and allow to set. (You can have a layer of
jam in the very bottom, if desired. Suggest strawberry is best.)

Molish an egg custard, and pour it ver the jelly before it (the custard)
sets, but not so that it is hot enough to destroy your best lead crystal
bowl.

Leave to set, and cool.

Cover with whipped double cream.

Note: REAL trifle doesn't contain fruit salad.

Also note:

My version does...

... and mosht of it pre-schteeped in schnappsh, or calvadosh, or shimilar..

--
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I am having friends round on Sunday for a BBQ we will be 46 adults and
5 children, (A friend who is a restauranter is catering it, I am not
brave enough). I will add to his puddings by making some bowls of
Rosty's English Trifle, I will let you know how it goes down.

Judith

Sally Thompson[_3_] 19-08-2008 09:52 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:35:13 +0100, Judith in France wrote
(in article
):

On Aug 18, 3:45*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
Ask Kay about her home made bread rolls, she introduced me to
breadmakers. *Although the last twice I made them, they rose
beautifully but when I took the cling film off them they went down to
nothing again, I must be doing something wrong. *I put the cling film
on them when they are rising so that the heat keeps in.


I've stopped using my breadmaker. *I make my bread in a Kenwood mixer with a
dough hook. *I make two big loaves at a time using a mixture of strong
flours - this week it was a little organic white, organic wholewheat,
granary flour and some mixed seeded flour. *

I let the dough rise once, knock back and put into two 2 lb double skinned
loaf tins and let it rise again covered with unbleached non stick baking
paper (similar to greaseproof paper but not stick). *I then leave until well
risen in the tins, then place in a very hot oven for 10 mins, lower the heat
a little, and continue to bake for another 20 - 25 mins until cooked through
and the loaves sound hollow when tapped. *



The bread is fine in the breadmaker, it's just my rolls are not doing
as well as Kay's. I too have a big Kenwood with a doughhooh and I
always used that until the breadmaker was bought. I wonder if I can
get the non stick baking paper you mention in France? Where do you
buy it Val as I could pick up some in September when I visit my girls.

Judith


Judith, I too make my bread in (with) a Kenwood mixer using a very similar
method to Val, but I don't use non-stick baking paper. I cut up an old
plastic bag and oil it lightly and use that. (I don't use plastic carriers as
a rule, but sometimes they get forced on me!) I did think quite seriously
about getting a breadmaker until I realised that a large loaf was just taller
- not larger all round - and I also make two big loaves at a time using a
1.5kg bag of flour.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
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Judith in France 19-08-2008 10:15 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Aug 19, 9:52*pm, Sally Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:35:13 +0100, Judith in France wrote
(in article
):





On Aug 18, 3:45*pm, AriesVal
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT), Judith in France wrote:
Ask Kay about her home made bread rolls, she introduced me to
breadmakers. *Although the last twice I made them, they rose
beautifully but when I took the cling film off them they went down to
nothing again, I must be doing something wrong. *I put the cling film
on them when they are rising so that the heat keeps in.


I've stopped using my breadmaker. *I make my bread in a Kenwood mixer with a
dough hook. *I make two big loaves at a time using a mixture of strong
flours - this week it was a little organic white, organic wholewheat,
granary flour and some mixed seeded flour. *


I let the dough rise once, knock back and put into two 2 lb double skinned
loaf tins and let it rise again covered with unbleached non stick baking
paper (similar to greaseproof paper but not stick). *I then leave until well
risen in the tins, then place in a very hot oven for 10 mins, lower the heat
a little, and continue to bake for another 20 - 25 mins until cooked through
and the loaves sound hollow when tapped. *


The bread is fine in the breadmaker, it's just my rolls are not doing
as well as Kay's. *I too have a big Kenwood with a doughhooh and I
always used that until the breadmaker was bought. *I wonder if I can
get the non stick baking paper you mention in France? *Where do you
buy it Val as I could pick up some in September when I visit my girls.


Judith


Judith, I too make my bread in (with) a Kenwood mixer using a very similar
method to Val, but I don't use non-stick baking paper. *I cut up an old
plastic bag and oil it lightly and use that. (I don't use plastic carriers as
a rule, but sometimes they get forced on me!) *I did think quite seriously
about getting a breadmaker until I realised that a large loaf was just taller
- not larger all round - and I also make two big loaves at a time using a
1.5kg bag of flour.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
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- Show quoted text -


Hi Sally before I reply to your post, I pick up the "you know what"
that came from your cousin, next month, thanks for the intro. Many
years ago, before breadmakers, I used to make the bread, the children
were very young and I used to make a lot of bread! I used the big
Kenwood and it was always a success. Now the Kenwood sits in the
pantry and I hardly use it except for Christmas cakes and big mixes
otherwise I just use a small hand mixer. When Edward makes Pitta
bread, he uses your plastic bag with olive oil technique.

Judith

Sally Thompson[_3_] 19-08-2008 10:21 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:56:15 +0100, AriesVal wrote
(in article ):

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:52:04 +0100, Sally Thompson wrote:

Judith, I too make my bread in (with) a Kenwood mixer using a very similar
method to Val, but I don't use non-stick baking paper. I cut up an old
plastic bag and oil it lightly and use that. (I don't use plastic carriers
as
a rule, but sometimes they get forced on me!) I did think quite seriously
about getting a breadmaker until I realised that a large loaf was just
taller
- not larger all round - and I also make two big loaves at a time using a
1.5kg bag of flour.


That's what I do too Sally. Make two big loaves and freeze one. I don't
eat a lot of bread so one large loaf lasts Tony for almost a week, and then
I defrost the second one. I use a mixture of flours including one with
mixed seeds in it - delicious :)

I bake two loaves every ten days or so.


I think you must be me in a parallel universe - you too have a Tony, and
chickens. What else I wonder?

:-)

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
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Sally Thompson[_3_] 19-08-2008 10:27 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:15:56 +0100, Judith in France wrote
(in article
):

On Aug 19, 9:52*pm, Sally Thompson wrote:


snip
Judith, I too make my bread in (with) a Kenwood mixer using a very similar
method to Val, but I don't use non-stick baking paper. *I cut up an old
plastic bag and oil it lightly and use that.

snip

Hi Sally before I reply to your post, I pick up the "you know what"
that came from your cousin, next month, thanks for the intro. Many
years ago, before breadmakers, I used to make the bread, the children
were very young and I used to make a lot of bread! I used the big
Kenwood and it was always a success. Now the Kenwood sits in the
pantry and I hardly use it except for Christmas cakes and big mixes
otherwise I just use a small hand mixer. When Edward makes Pitta
bread, he uses your plastic bag with olive oil technique.



Good luck with the "you know what". As I said before, lots of very good
advice on sci.agriculture.poultry. You don't need to subscribe, you could
always just browse through the archives on Goggle Gropes.

I am having great fun with my new companions, so I hope you enjoy yours just
as much.

There, that's got them all guessingg.

I couldn't live without my Kenwood - I use it all the time, not just for
bread-making!

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 11:02 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
The message
from K contains these words:

Not alpines, then, as they don't produce runners.


That's what I thought, but I've never met wilds this big


Mine produce some fruit as big as the top joint of my little finger.

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Sally Thompson[_3_] 19-08-2008 11:04 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:28:21 +0100, AriesVal wrote
(in article ):

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:21:48 +0100, Sally Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:56:15 +0100, AriesVal wrote
(in article ):

[19 quoted lines suppressed]


I think you must be me in a parallel universe - you too have a Tony, and
chickens. What else I wonder?

-)


I wonder? You don't perhaps have a son called Matthew - nah not possible
lol

:)


g
A son, yes, but not called Matthew. Phew, that's a relief!

--
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Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 11:29 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
The message

from Judith in France contains these words:

I am having friends round on Sunday for a BBQ we will be 46 adults and
5 children, (A friend who is a restauranter is catering it, I am not
brave enough). I will add to his puddings by making some bowls of
Rosty's English Trifle, I will let you know how it goes down.


Hum. Try a bowl of Rustyspecial TAAAW:

A generous dollop of decent strawberry jam in the bottom of an
attractive glass bowl - but not too thick glass.

Crumble some dry sponge (or sponge fingers) into the bottom to a depth
of about 2½". (Inessential refinement - warm the bowl in a basin of hot
water so the jam soaks into the bottom of the sponge.)

Make-up enough double-strength strawberry jelly to fill the bowl to a
bit above the top of the sponge, add half its volume of (real) cream
sherry and while still hot, gently run it into the sponge, so as not to
disturb it too much.

Leave to set. (This is important!)

Make some more jelly, whichever flavour appeals, to fill up to about one
third the height of the bowl. Make the jelly double-strength, using any
fruit syrup you have spare - from tinned peaches, pineapple &c., or from
cooked fresh fruit.

Place the bowl in a basin of very cold water.

Prepare enough fruit (thinly-sliced apple, peach slices, pineapple
chunks Etc.) to completely cover the sponge, mix with the jelly, and
when it is cool enough, gently ladle it all in.

Allow to set.

Make a pint (or more, depending on the size of the bowl) of
cornflour-type custard so that it will set like blancmange. Pour over
jelly/fruit mix and allow to cool.

Cover this with a thick layer of whipped cream, and top it with
'tombstones' (upright blanched half almonds - not flaked) and tinned
morello cherries. (My version calls for them to be separated from their
juice and steeped in dark rum. The juice can be added to the leftover
rum and enjoyed as Cook's perks.)

This used to be a Rusty Household Chrimbletreat, mainly because egg
custard is UAB.¹³³

¹³³ Sheddism: Ugh! Arggh! Bleaugh!

--
Rusty
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Sacha[_3_] 19-08-2008 11:31 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
On 19/8/08 17:36, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:25:37 +0100, Sacha wrote:

snip

I'm losing track of all this? What am I doing - or not doing - now? ;-)

Keeping an eye on Judith, your trusty naive blonde.


Full time job, I'll tell you! ;-))


One day she will grow up and leave home :)


I do hope not - it would be a dull fireside without her!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon



Rusty Hinge 2 19-08-2008 11:32 PM

Damons? Plums?
 
The message et
from Sally Thompson contains these words:

Good luck with the "you know what". As I said before, lots of very good
advice on sci.agriculture.poultry. You don't need to subscribe, you could
always just browse through the archives on Goggle Gropes.


I am having great fun with my new companions, so I hope you enjoy
yours just
as much.


There, that's got them all guessingg.


I couldn't live without my Kenwood - I use it all the time, not just for
bread-making!


Excellent for mixing compost too...

--
Rusty
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