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16-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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"Pete C" wrote in message ... Gordon H wrote: snippy There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! snippy May I suggest you run the armoured cable through something like inch & a half waste pipe, so cable can be withdrawn if needed,  -- You can also run a water pipe through it - even more essential to plant life than the leccy ! Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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16-09-2008, 08:35 PM
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16-09-2008, 09:00 PM
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16-09-2008, 09:01 PM
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: The suggestion I was given by a builder friend was to do the job properly but get some older wire and use that as the post "Part P" stuff is marked. That way nobody will know when the new wiring was done and will assume pre "Part P" so there will be no difficult questions. PartP rays! -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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16-09-2008, 09:02 PM
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from Gordon H contains these words: Insurance companies are clever at finding ways to avoid a payout. Yes, this is the only reason I could find for not doing the job myself. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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16-09-2008, 09:06 PM
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The message
from "Pete C" contains these words: Gordon H wrote: snippy There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! snippy May I suggest you run the armoured cable through something like inch & a half waste pipe, so cable can be withdrawn if needed, The supply to my shed back in the '60s was 13 amp cable in steel conduit, buried about two feet under. Now, I'd tend to use black Alkathene water pipe: much stronger. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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16-09-2008, 09:43 PM
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In message , ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°²
writes What's wrong with a nice overhead catenary? Had one. It drove the window cleaner barmy. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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16-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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In message , Corporal Jones
writes Gordon H wrote: There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! [...] Insurance companies are clever at finding ways to avoid a payout. And therein lies the problem with part P, you can legally run a plug in extension from wherever to wherever but if you want a legal job done you have to pay through the nose and jump through hoops. Don't always trust a qualified electrician to do a decent job, the good thing about doing it yourself is that you are less concerned with the economics of getting it finished and making a profit but just want to do it properly, mind you the caveat is if in doubt and don't have the knowledge don't even attempt it. Yes, it is a problem finding tradesmen to trust, but my house was rewired by a neighbour who was a time served electrician trained by the Electricity Board before they started contracting jobs out to anyone. We were victims of one such, who installed a shower over the bath on the wrong wall, in such a way that the water could spray onto the shower control box! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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16-09-2008, 09:51 PM
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In message , Pete C
writes Gordon H wrote: snippy There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! snippy May I suggest you run the armoured cable through something like inch & a half waste pipe, so cable can be withdrawn if needed, Good point! I have a recollection that we actually did that, and it was the electrician's idea. He was a friend and neighbour, but sadly died soon after completing the rewiring of my house. :-( -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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16-09-2008, 10:39 PM
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On 16/9/08 19:59, in article , "Pete
Stockdale" wrote: "Pete C" wrote in message ... Gordon H wrote: snippy There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! snippy May I suggest you run the armoured cable through something like inch & a half waste pipe, so cable can be withdrawn if needed, -- You can also run a water pipe through it - even more essential to plant life than the leccy ! Together? -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon (new website online) |
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16-09-2008, 10:55 PM
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Chris Green wrote ... Bob Hobden wrote: The suggestion I was given by a builder friend was to do the job properly but get some older wire and use that as the post "Part P" stuff is marked. That way nobody will know when the new wiring was done and will assume pre "Part P" so there will be no difficult questions. This is a fallacy, "Part P" stuff is not marked. The change from red/black to brown/blue was *not* at the same time as Part P was introduced and anyway both colours were allowed for quite some time. I was told it is marked on the outer casing of the cable, nothing to do with the colours of the wires inside. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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17-09-2008, 04:53 AM
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Hi Janet, This one got me very curious because I am about to run power to my shed. I telephoned my district council and asked. Here is the gist of the reply, anyone can do the wiring, but it must be inspected and certified by a electrician. So you can save some cash by doing it yourself, but you will still have to pay for the test. Hope this helps. Tim Perry |
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17-09-2008, 10:06 AM
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Gordon H wrote:
In message , Corporal Jones writes Gordon H wrote: There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! [...] Insurance companies are clever at finding ways to avoid a payout. And therein lies the problem with part P, you can legally run a plug in extension from wherever to wherever but if you want a legal job done you have to pay through the nose and jump through hoops. Don't always trust a qualified electrician to do a decent job, the good thing about doing it yourself is that you are less concerned with the economics of getting it finished and making a profit but just want to do it properly, mind you the caveat is if in doubt and don't have the knowledge don't even attempt it. Yes, it is a problem finding tradesmen to trust, but my house was rewired by a neighbour who was a time served electrician trained by the Electricity Board before they started contracting jobs out to anyone. .... and who now, with Part P, probably isn't able to do the job any more. -- Chris Green |
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17-09-2008, 10:10 AM
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Gordon H wrote:
In message , Pete C writes Gordon H wrote: snippy There is only one safe way to do it. Get a qualified electrician to lay a preferably armoured cable, that's what I did for an 8ft run to my garage. It doesn't need to be 3ft deep, but I covered the cable with small hardcore, then a couple of inches of concrete which a spade or fork will not penetrate! snippy May I suggest you run the armoured cable through something like inch & a half waste pipe, so cable can be withdrawn if needed, Good point! I have a recollection that we actually did that, and it was the electrician's idea. He was a friend and neighbour, but sadly died soon after completing the rewiring of my house. :-( Unless the pipe is straight and you can be sure it won't get filled with soil you're wasting your time, the wire will be well night immovable quite soon. -- Chris Green |
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